The Turkish Muslims aren't having any of this business either. Established slaughter houses? No way Jose!

And there's no way of taming these bloodthirsty barbarians either.

1,179 of these butchers were treated for injuries during the rampage to slaughter animals in backyards and streets - one was injured by a crane used to hoist an animal prior to killing the poor critter and 4 others seriously injured by animals falling on them.

How curious that these depravities are reported around the world - Ireland, US, Europe but not in Australia.

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/?c=ireland&jp=cwsnkfmhidau

Ah Yabbs, alas our billion dollar secret for the Australian economy is not safe with you.

We want BOTH. However mostly to stop twenty years of complaining about the cruelty and actually “DO” something about it.

Yup but the Halal” Pre stunned” “Allah is merciful stand” will sell more than the Aussie burger RITUAL SLAUGHTER STAND.

Oh Didn’t Peter tell you Yabb`s? They want ALL Animals Slaughtered in Australia done by the Islamic Ritual method.

Isn’t that right Ikabel?. Sorry Yabb`s but your Yummy lamb Aussie burger stand is out of business.


Yup Halal drive through, and veggie burger drive through, and stands will beat them all.

Might even wrap it all up with some educational wrapping material and toss in a free baby sitting service for those who attend our ‘education workshop lectures’ on Animal Welfare.)

A few TV adds showing the public how the “others` are Slaughtered should seal it- AND expose ANY Government even THINKING of Allowing Ritual Slaughter in Australia!

Pity McGauran hasn’t capability of comprehending the endless benefits to Australia’s economy, employment, health and reputation by spending our public tax dollars building abattoirs and slaughtering HERE instead of the Middle East.

Nor does he see the danger in bending to the requirements of the extreme Muslims to turn Australia into an Islamic Ritual Slaughter Country.
Most Muslims freely accept pre stunning . So why is Australia bending to the extreme and spoiling our reputation.?

We are the talk of the world as we go backwards and into dangerous waters.

Just goes to show what happens when you put the wrong man in the job like the new President of AFIC who cant be trusted to honour a MOU.


Most Muslims readily accept pre stunning of Animals but Ikabel and Peter don’t have the guts to make a stand instead bening to the extreme.

Still that will suite "us' as we enjoy world wide approval from friendly marketing programs for "humane slaughter" HKM - verses Australia’s RITUAL Slaughters!

Bon-Apetite
Dickie the public aleady said- They want Live Exports banned.
"Time to help reopen plants".

Pale said Yup but the Halal” Pre stunned” “Allah is merciful stand” will sell more than the Aussie burger RITUAL SLAUGHTER STAND.

Havent you got that arse about pale? Its ‘Allah’ that seems to have a preference for ritual slaughterings, not the aussies.

Pale also said “Oh Didn’t Peter tell you Yabb`s? They want ALL Animals Slaughtered in Australia done by the Islamic Ritual method.”

So, you would be happy for animals to be ritually slaughered here instead of ME? I don’t give me that pre stunning crap because they have already been exposed for not doing it.

Mercifully for the animals of austalia, we are not into sacrifices and ritual killings. Just whos side are you on pale? You’re not taking kick backs (or should I say donations) to sing the praises of the muslims are you?

pale, if the reason for this thread was really just to highlight a lie told by a politician than you must be a very tortured soul. Im sure you know that all politicians wether they are from left right or in between, lie - thats what they do. If you are going to start a thread every single time one of them lies than I dont think youll have much time for a life, let alone supporting your chosen cause.

So - realistically your thread was started to forward your cause and highlight the issues about live export that concern you - we dont want to tell anymore little lies do we!!

As Yabby has articularly pointed out the life a lamb, calf or any animal breed for produce doesnt have a pleasant life. That is a fact - end of story. I, with my family are farmers so we are involved in the industry and the breeding and trading of this stock. I wince when the stock are loaded onto trucks for travel to the saleyards, I wince when the lambs are marked, I wince when the sheep are shorn - their whole existence, in our eyes is pretty ordinary but if the markets - the public - want to eat lamb and beef, wear wool and leather and not pay an absolute fortune for it than the animals to some degree have to suffer. Every effort is made by the farmers, shearers etc to alleviate any unecessary suffering but its simply a fact of life. Live export is the same - the market dictates the sheep are live - end of story.

Get over it pale, I reckon you should go and find another cause - how about - "People against Politicians Lying" ....thatll keep you busy!

PF
Funny
No, Poor Old Yabb`s will be out of business with his Yummy Aussie Lamb Burger stands because there wont be any Aussie Slaughter houses left.

They want “all Animals Slaughtered in Australia to be Halal”

Another little secret
Around five or six years ago Muslim leaders asked the Australian Government if “all’ Abattoirs in Australia could be made Halal.

The Answer was NO.

Still -as time goes by with the demand of Halal Products world wide they will just open more plants.
More ways than one to skin a cat, O`oops sorry dickie.

Halal meat is a multi billion dollar industry and growing fast.

I think we can safely say within a few years there will be” very few” Aussie meat plants still in operation- unless we do something now and get our own regional and aboriginal people and if you like our own breed back involved with the industry.

NO- We are NOT happy to see Abattoirs ‘not pre stunning’.

BUT its actually happening here NOW and for a LONG time under domestic plants which mostly come under Labours State Governments.

AQIS at the moment WONT allow it – but they are considering it right now.

AFIC have NOT made a stand for pre stunning- So their leadership WILL be challenged amongst the Muslim People themselves!

The X president of AFIC Dr Ali Ammeer last year put out a media release explaining that most Muslims readily accept pre stunning.


JAKIM are NOT that hard to deal with if it’s put on the table.

There are many Good Muslim People who will stand up for pre stunning of Animals and insists on mercy when slaughtering.

Halal Kind meats WILL Pre Stun and will Slaughter HERE In Australia with a high degree of control over Animal Welfare.

In fact it will be the priority “and marketed that way.”

It’s a billion dollar Industry that Australia could play THE leading roll in.

Why screw it up because of bad leadership.

pale, how on earth would getting aboriginal or "our own breed" back into the industry help.

I wish I lived in your fantasy land - it must be fun!