Pronto Spanky!

How goes it my friend?

Ah......the distractions of moving from a regional area to the city!!

Here goes a second endeavour to access this thread. The initial attempt, subsequent to penning all of 420 words, saw me delete the entire post when reducing the contents. Drat!!

PF, your information was much appreciated. I was unaware that pigs are exported or that they are transported by road from Qld to WA. This is most shocking. Are the pigs unloaded along the way for some respite?

I am totally opposed to live animal exports and the resultant destinations. No animal should be subjected to this legalised savagery.

However, the hooligans, strutting our corridors of parliament will procrastinate on any moral or ethical issue regarding fiscal policies therefore, I confess I reluctantly endorse your splendid recommendation that for the interim period, animals are exported only to Western nations which have similar welfare laws to ours.

Sadly, I am not aware of any nation that properly respects the rights of farmed species (particularly Australia) but your suggestion may at least attract attention from our "venerable" leaders who collude with the network of liars in this industry.

"The idea that the Labor Party would cave in to an organised extremist campaign and stop the trade is frightening ... that you would cave in to that instead of meet the challenge, educate the general public," says McGauran.

McGauran said he completely supported the live export industry and it would continue under a Coalition Government. (Rodent!)

"(Australia) operates the world's best practice," he said. (He must be on something?)

"I think we've got to stop apologising for it - we lead the world." (Sadist!)

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22700460-1702,00.html

http://www.abc.net.au/rural/news/content/2007/s2070137.htm

And so the porcine resembling McGauran (apologies to our pig friends) continues with his cunning patholgical attempts to thwart truth and justice, despite the glaringly heinous evidence accumulated over some 25 years.

Can we but pray that Senator Kerry OBrien will accept that the live animal exports' trade is truly morally repugnant?

McGauran didn’t win any votes with his pompous attitude during his interview on Landline yesterday.

His quote “I think we've got to stop apologising for it” “We lead the world” “it is an industry to be proud of” will only serve to lose even more votes at the next election. Then again, are any of us really expecting to see McGauran as Minister of Agriculture after that date?

Kerry O’Brien on the other hand at least accepts that there is public outcry and that it can no longer be ignored. I do note however, that he is talking along the same lines, ships are not necessary the problem, it’s the destination. If I was running a campaign on this issue, I would certainly be making the most of this.

Small but significant steps dickie, and before you know it the erosion has started.

"I do note however, that he is talking along the same lines, ships are not necessary the problem,"

PF, Don't forget the 600 sheep which died onboard just this financial year and that was only on one ship.

Yes indeed PF. The O'Brien comments give us some hope.

I'd vote for Paddy the dog if it helped towards the proper welfare of these poor critters.

Careful folks.

We all tred carefully. Obrien wont do anything until he can offers a alternative to our Farmers.

It would be stupid and irresponsibly of him or Rudd or any Government to do so.


So here is the botton line for all those who say the want to improve the treatment of farm Animals-

Get onboard and get active yourselves in assisting to establish contacts with.
A Farmers and Aboriginal councils
B Small Domestic plants that possible could be updated to Export Standards
C The local Councils and Chamber of commerce offices in your areas to encourage more council involment to reopen country towns.

There many Muslim people and councils who all have contacts with people overseas that buy meat from Australia and Australian Animals.
Talk to them. Talk to your local council be it regional or city. We all eat meat and veggies after all. The city councils must share in the resposibilty.

E Forget the Howard Government.
A little secret
Each State Government Premier also has the same powers as the Mininster of trade for his or her state.
So we can bi-pass the federal Government and send reps from Australia to visit other countries to encourage them to get involved in co joint ventures with farmers at grass roots level here instead of taking animals alive.

MLA and Austrade refuse to do this and have blocked our attempts with red tape.
We the public require Mr Obrien HALF of our own money back to fund this new promotion of co-jointly owned farms and abattoirs Here in Australia with overeas meat purchasers.

Other countries are very interested in Australias free green clean products.
The bottom line is we must not allow either Government to say we are all extreme bunch of Veggies.
That is how they have got away with this blatent cruelty for years.

Unless Animal groups are prepaired to meet us half way - both governments are going to contiune to get themselves off the hook nicely
Simple by branding "all" of us extreme veggies as your saw on Sunday ABC Land Line.- Nothings changed.

Ok, to carry this over from the other thread, let me quote from
your website Dickie, to confirm what I have been saying all along:

"The only way this can be stopped," Krishna added, speaking of the camel slaughter, "is by devout
Muslims making sure that the teachings of the Prophet are practiced. There are strict injunctions
that no sick or injured animal can be slaughtered; that no animal can be slaughtered in view of
another; that the knife must be sharp; that the animal must be rested and well fed; that the animal
must not be made to suffer in any way in the preparations for slaughter; and that even mental agony
or torture is against the teachings.

"When the Prophet once saw a man sharpening his knife in front of an animal, he scolded the
butcher," Krishna reminded, "asking 'Do you want the animal to be killed twice"

Exactly! Islam preaches against cruelty to animals, the veggie
brigade ignore this completely!

Yup, Europe has cut the 80 million $ subsidies to ship live cattle
to the ME, as they used to pay each year.

Europe has not banned live shipments to the ME.
Europe still refuses to accept Australian lamb and mutton of
any volume in their market, unlike the New Zealanders. So Australia
has no choice but to ship to the third world. If Europe changed
their mind tomorrow, we could ship our lambs and mutton to that
market. They refuse.

Yup, a number of modern Western style plants have been built in the
ME, as I mentioned before. I can't seem to recall AA showing them,
in their video.

Oh for God's sake Yabby. Stop your nauseous hypocrisy.

Your bleeding heart quotation has nothing to do with the Middle East and you are quoting an Indian - in India!!

You purposely omitted the initial paragraphs which Krishna was responding to.

You're sick Yabby....get help!

"CHENNAI––While the clandestine Indian cattle export industry chiefly feeds the slaughter industry of nearby Muslim nations, the Indian Muslim minority mostly kills sheep, goats, and poultry at Eid al-Adha.

"Few Indian Muslims dare to harm cattle. Many have been killed in sectarian violence erupting sporadically in response to mere rumors about cattle-killing.

"Especially wealthy Muslim Indians may kill camels, however, like those who massacred 30 camels at 14 locations around Chennai this year, under police protection.

"The camels reportedly took up to two hours apiece to die, to the horror of Blue Cross of India chair Chinny Krishna and thousands of other witnesses."

Two hours to die, Yabby. At the hands of the minority Muslims in India!

You have blood on your hands and your antagonism to truth is revolting!