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The War with Iran

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Remember how they always spoke of 'Putin's illegal War of Aggression' and 'Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine'.

Is that same news going to talk about 'Trump's illegal War of Aggression' and 'America's unprovoked invasion of Iran'

Is the news going to say it over and over and over and over until it drums into everyone's heads?

If not, then why not?
And if they don't, you might be forced to consider
'Have I been the subject of Western propaganda meant to manipulate my support for wars?'
'Do I want to attack Russia or Iran and would I send my children and my money to achieve this outcome?'
'How do these wars benefit me and my family, does it make our country safer and my family more prosperous?'

Putin first spoke against NATO expansion after Bush announced intention for Ukraine and Georgia to join.
Russia did not want US/NATO nukes on it's doorstep.

Was Putin right to not want a western proxy power fielding nuclear bombs on his front lawn?

Now we're told that Iran can't have a nuke, That's their story.
Look at what's happening now, does Iran actually need a nuke?
It seems quite capable of creating sufficient impact without them.
If Iran could've done this anytime, then what did it need a nuke for?

And if the West is right to not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, then how is Putin wrong not wanting Ukraine to have U.S. nukes on his front lawn.

Is the media informing you or making your decisions for you?
Is it telling you the whole truth, or selling you a narrative and manufacturing your consent?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 28 March 2026 10:40:53 AM
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"Remember how they always spoke of 'Putin's illegal War of Aggression' and 'Russia's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine'.

Is that same news going to talk about 'Trump's illegal War of Aggression' and 'America's unprovoked invasion of Iran'"

Again AC, does the average Ukrainian support Russia's invasion? Does the average Iranian support the action of the US and Israel? You might also comment on the Iranian regime's view on the marriage of nine year old girls or its murder of ten of thousands of its defenceless citizens recently.
Posted by Fester, Saturday, 28 March 2026 10:51:40 AM
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Trump: "I call it a Special Military Operation, an S - M - O, just like Putin. I can't call it a war, because I need congressional approval for that."
http://x.com/realstewpeters/status/2036968862860615982
(Yes I cheated)

Man Arrested in Israel Over Alleged Rape in Bomb Shelter During Siren
http://israel.com/crime/man-arrested-in-israel-over-alleged-rape-in-bomb-shelter-during-siren/

Blow up the Red Cross
http://x.com/IrnaEnglish/status/2036450802886185337
The president of the Iranian Red Crescent Society (IRCS) Pir Hossein Kolivand: Seventeen IRCS bases across the country have been targeted by the aggressor enemy. Ninety-four ambulances and rescue vehicles were directly hit by enemy missiles.

US, Israeli Attacks Have Damaged Nearly 500 Schools, 300 Health Centers in Iran
http://truthout.org/articles/us-israeli-attacks-have-damaged-nearly-500-schools-300-health-centers-in-iran/

What values are we even fighting for?

http://x.com/SikandarShah077/status/2037569750524407897
Berlin: Footage shows police forcefully detaining and perpwalking a blind-folded young girl during a pro-Palestine protest. The incident has sparked outrage and raised serious concerns about the use of force against minors. Questions about rights and accountability cannot be ignored.

Israel is poisoning the Wests values.

Iran is openly mocking the U.S. and Western 'Epstein' class.
Openly mocking Trump and challenging the West to have a go.
http://x.com/pati_marins64/status/2037377825540292688
http://x.com/RyanRozbiani/status/2036503251445555243
http://x.com/pati_marins64/status/2037343921429180751

Iran have issued their own counter demands

1. Complete cessation to attacks, aggression and assassinations, removal of military bases in the gulf
2. Binding Guarantees that the U.S. and Israel will not resume the war
3. War Reparations for damage and losses incurred during the war
4. End to hostilities on all fronts i.e. other groups such as Hezbollah in Lebanon
5. Sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz, transit fees

But they also have other demands

End to sanctions, not giving up their ballistic missiles or drones i.e defense capabilities, payments for Persian gulf oil cargoes paid in Yuan i.e. end the petrodollar / U.S. hegemony, Gulf States mustn't reinvest in U.S.

Alastair Crooke: IRAN Will NOT Compromise
http://www.youtube.com/live/VzfqtjAIkJA

The U.S. isn't negotiating, they're lying to placate financial markets and delay their invasion to better prepare for it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 28 March 2026 11:55:22 AM
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Aussies in Dubai issued stark warning
http://au.news.yahoo.com/warning-aussies-dubai-hotels-231058668.html
>>There is a threat to the safety of Australians in hotels in Dubai, the Australian government has warned.
The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade issued a very specific warning in the early hours of Saturday, Australian time.
“We have reason to believe there are heightened risks around hotels in Dubai, including an ongoing threat in the vicinity of Le Meridien hotel on Airport Road, Dubai,” the department revealed via Smartraveller.<<

Google? 'US troops remote working Le Meridien hotel'

AI Overview
As of late March 2026, reports indicate that US troops in the Middle East have been forced to relocate to hotels and other remote locations—including sites in the Gulf region—due to severe damage inflicted on their bases by Iranian attacks
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"Work from Home" Operation: Many American troops are reportedly working remotely from hotels following attacks that rendered some bases unusable, particularly for roles outside of those operating and maintaining fighter jets.
Specific Threat to Le Meridien Dubai: The Australian government issued an urgent warning regarding a "heightened risk" and "ongoing threat" in the vicinity of the Le Meridien hotel on Airport Road in Dubai, citing threats by Iran to target hotels used by US personnel.
Widespread Gulf Relocation: The situation is part of a broader, ongoing conflict where US personnel are spread across multiple temporary locations in the region.
Security Context: The UAE has been dealing with intercepted missile and drone attacks, with warnings issued against filming or posting footage of these incidents.

... So when you hear 'Iran is attacking civilian targets in Gulf States', they're not telling you the full story.
Thy're targeting U.S. personel who attacked them and hide in civilian buildings after their bases were destroyed.
It's a crime against the Geneva convention to place military targets in civilian areas, but were kind of past following international rules now, Israel and the West no longer follows them.

Ballsy Palestinian kid telling off the IDF
http://x.com/hippyygoat/status/2037563996530684004
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 28 March 2026 12:14:00 PM
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"The 60,000 US dead in Vietnam were mostly, Blacks, Hispanics and poor Whites, "

False.... as usual. Black deaths were in proportion to their numbers in the rest of the population. Hispanics likewise. 85% of deaths were white. If you have evidence (there's that word you don't understand again) that these were poor whites, show it.

"You claim America is big on saving lives in wars,"

Well I didn't say that. I said the dropping of the A-bomb saved millions of lives. Since you can't refute that, even if you understood it, you are anxious to change the subject.... as usual.

"Nothing to say on the coward Trump and how he dodged military service!"

False....as usual. It was a ballot, just like Australia. His number didn't come up.

I was too young for the ballot in Australia.

"Is it true the the US is stealing millions of barrels of Venezuelan oil?"

False....as usual.
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 28 March 2026 12:39:06 PM
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Whats the difference between the wars in Vietnam and Iran
Answer = Trump can't get out of the war in Iran.

US 'on verge' of ending Iran war as allies warned to lead postwar security coalition in the Strait of Hormuz
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-03-28/iran-war-us-pushes-allies-on-postwar-coalition-strait-of-hormuz/106506278

>>Secretary of State Marco Rubio has told allies to lead the postwar effort to secure the Strait of Hormuz and says its military operations will be achieved in weeks.
He told reporters the US was "on the verge" of achieving its objectives, which would not require US ground forces.<<

No U.S. ground forces required?

>>Face-to-face peace talks hang in the balance as an Iranian counter-proposal to the 15-point peace plan is expected later today.<<
- There's no negotiations, Iran openly issued counter-demands.

>>Only yesterday, the president lashed allies on social media for doing "absolutely nothing to help with the lunatic nation… of Iran".
But on Saturday Mr Rubio said the US was not asking any nations to get involved in the conflict.
"We're doing it," he said, while blaming the press for the apparent contradiction.
"I think we've always viewed it as a post-conflict necessity."
The secretary said the US would be willing to be part of the coalition but that allies would need to take the lead on operations to secure safe passage of ships in the strait.<<

So, they're saying 'We're not asking for any nations to get involved'...
- 'just for allies to take the lead in acting as cannon fodder against Iranian missiles and drones'.

- Israels has 7 corvettes, why not ask and send them - and the U.S. go with them?
- It's their war.

How many times did I tell you the U.S. weapons are shite?
That they can't fight a long land war anymore?
That they're more likely to drag us into wars and get us killed than protect us in an actual serious conflict?
- They can't even protect their ow bases.

And who ACTUALLY wants to die for Israel?
- Lets have a referendum.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 28 March 2026 2:39:59 PM
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