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Sacked nurses a step too far in terms of free speech and comment
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Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 6:59:38 PM
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Hi mhaze,
"No no. These people didn't JUST express antisemitic views. They boasted that they had and would in the future use their positions to cause physical harm to Jews. That's very different to just expressing a view." - Agreed; "Sacking and deregistering them was the minimum that was required...and also the maximum." - Also agreed. Also, I'll leave the Jew / Soviet can of worms for another time. (But it doesn't mean I'm shying away in defeat fyi) Hi Foxy, " This week Sky News reported it had a list with the personal details of 500 Palestinian people who had obtained visas to flee overwhelming violence in Gaza 81 of whom are in Australia. The Jewish Council of Australia is concerned for the safety of the Palestinian people who have had their identites exposed to Sky News and urges the Australian government to investigate how their private information was obtained to prevent the spread of this information." - Good, someone needs to be fired for that too, and I hope the Jewish Council of Australia's views on this were sincere. "The Council is alarmed that some Jewish organisations have been lobbying for the Australian government to refuse entry to people seeking safety from Gaza and have mobilized anti Palestinian racism and sentiment to do so". - Do they really care, or do they just wish to export Israels problems to other countries by any means? Hi Yuyutsu, "That pair is just silly immature - those who really want to do harm, will never tell others about it." Likely accurate, the real nefarious ones aren't going to be foolish enough to advertise it. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 7:40:06 PM
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Hi mhaze,
"Oh, so they're the only choices? People who want to hurt their patients and talk about it and people who want to hurt their patients and keep it secret?" Sounds like the arguments I heard for Israelis on a video a few days back. You have the Honest Zionists, they're not afraid to say they want all the Palestinians dead or gone, and the liberal Zionists, who don't wish to think of themselves as horrible people without a conscience, but they still argue the Palestinians should still all be sent packing somewhere else. I think the Youtube content creators arguments held merit But I also think that 'person' was little strange themselves though... - You'll know what I mean if you look. The Two Faces of Zionism http://youtu.be/43JFdXCf9v4 Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 7:45:06 PM
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How's that for free speech ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx8X-nnrauo Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 8:38:55 PM
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I'm not sure it was free for the U.S. taxpayer Indy.
Looks they they were the ones who had to foot the bill. USAID also spent about 3 million on Hamster Fight Clubs, apparently. And many others things as well that would make your head spin. Wasteful spending by government gone crazy. - But it's the grant money the National Endowment for Democracy (NED) spends on regime changes that doesn't seem to have gotten as much publicity, that bothers me. I believe Elon Musk has put forward that all government spending should be on a publicly accessible blockchain, and that AI can be used to read and summarise bills passed by government. - The bills that no-one ever actually reads, that is. Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 9:26:41 PM
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Hi Nathan,
"We have two nurses here, how many more in the medical sector are actually out there in real terms with similar views/positions. We don't know and the alarm bells should be going off, but people like yourself act as if it's all nothing and then try and pass the issue off as a safety issue." So those nurses are the tip of the ice burg? That is a revolting and unsubstantiated accusation to make. I remember seeing an interview with a trauma specialist volunteering his services at a Gaza hospital. He was very scathing of what the IDF was doing, but not for an instant did I think he would deliver anything other than his best standard of care and compassion to whoever he was treating. Whether they be Jew, Muslim or gentile is totally irrelevant, and he would certainly not make comment that he would kill any Jew in his care. I think that you and Foxy should just drop your Jew bashing. Health practitioners have very robust standards of ethics established over many centuries and your input has nothing new to offer them. Even cult leader Albo has distanced himself from the two nurses. Health care is about care and compassion. Hatred has no place. Posted by Fester, Tuesday, 18 February 2025 10:19:47 PM
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Also I shared the other day that Jews themselves are banding together to hunt and expose anti-Semites, their mistake was their own ignorance.
But beyond that, I know it sucks for them and it's a huge price to pay losing one's career for things said in a heated exchange, I truly do.
(So long as they didn't ACTUALLY mean what they said)
And everyone here knows I've been sticking up for the Palestinians human rights from Day 1, despite any criticism that's come my way.
- And I'm probably the only one here with the balls to say Israel is a terrorist state lead in part by irrational psychotic religious lunatics, hell bent on conducting mass murder for land theft.
Claims of anti-Semitism has been a means to silence these voices such as mine that defended the innocent, and I haven't wavered.
"Plus we have not seen a lot of calls from prominent people calling for leaders and political people to resign (with their actions seeing huge deaths in Gaza) as it's too difficult politically. So, these nurses are easy targets."
- Because it would be as much of a career ending proposition for the politicians as what the nurses went and said, such is the power of the Israel lobby.