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Sacked nurses a step too far in terms of free speech and comment

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I want to express my sympathy for the nurses sacked over anti Israeli comments made in recent times. While their comments would not be something I'd personally make, I believe it's important to consider their situation from a broader perspective.

We can't let offhand comments or jokes decide someone's career, especially when we have a shortage of healthcare workers. Many people make similar comments daily without consequences, but we just don’t hear or see them.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-12/nsw-health-minister-on-online-doctor-veifer-video/104926206

Comments like these have been around for years, but with modern technology, we now see these moments played out online. This raises questions about free speech and principles of forgiveness. Should every offhand comment be grounds for dismissal? People need to toughen up in my view and recognise that all types of commentary are part of public discourse - and not hold onto to excessive amounts of baggage - and that means forgiveness.

I hope these nurses can eventually return to their jobs, with my view they’ve become easy targets or 'whipping posts' rather than focusing on the deeper issues at hand, like addressing the ongoing conflict in Gaza.
Posted by NathanJ, Saturday, 15 February 2025 6:22:59 PM
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This is another outrageous example of the enemy within. You should be ashamed of yourself, Nathan.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 16 February 2025 8:33:27 AM
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Hi NathanJ

I'm not all that surprised or angered by the fact the Muslim nurses had animosity towards IDF soldiers at this moment in time.
But even if what they said was only said in the heat of the moment, they were career ending comments nonetheless.
They should not have been on that website during working hours anyway.

I don't like it that Jews are rallying together and making coordinated efforts to try and catch out anyone with criticism, like they're hunting NAZI war criminals.
I think there's plenty of reasons for criticism, and obviously some have reason to feel more strongly than others.
I'm not sure how I feel about them being charged.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 16 February 2025 9:06:22 AM
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If the nurses had been Israelis and had made comments
about Palestinians - would the results and outcomes
have been the same?

Also, we should question Max Veifer's motives. He's
the Israeli influencer who "exposed" the NSW nurses.
It seems he achieved what he wanted.

All a bit suss.
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 February 2025 9:22:07 AM
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Hi Nathan,

Thanks for this discussion and for trying to bring in some
balance in this storm in a teacup
Posted by Foxy, Sunday, 16 February 2025 9:38:13 AM
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The two ex-nurses did not make any “off the cuff” comments.

Like other people who let the ABC and other Lefist sites to do their thinking, Nathan perhaps, doesn't bother to read his own references. The female ex-nurse said, “I won't treat them, I will kill them”. The male ex- nurse , who falsely claimed to be a doctor, referred to Israelis as “dogs”.

Nathan, who sometimes regales us with his medical problems and his consequent reliance on the Australian medical system, might like to ponder the possibility of finding himself at the mercy of such people who might have a grudge against him or who hate him for some reason.

Only a tiny minority of people (including the Muslim community) of die-hards and ideologues would agree with Nathan, or try to make excuses for these two dreadful people.

If they are not citizens, their feet should not touch the ground on the way out of our country.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 16 February 2025 10:05:15 AM
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