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Quo Vadis Israel?

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From a year ago... http://tiny.cc/9v8pzz

Gazans parading dead and dying victims through the streets, beating them with anything that comes to hand, shouting in manic joy.

These are the same people that the ABC and the rest of the left-leaning media (is there any other kind?) regularly interview to tell us how bad things are for them and how unfair it all is.

You reap what you sow.

From an article by the wonderful Brendan O’Neill..."when anti-Semitism rears its head, society is in deep trouble." From what I see in this group and elsewhere, the antisemites don't care, revelling in their claimed superior virtue.

This isn't difficult....
“God willing, we will destroy Israel.”
That's all you need to remember
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 9:06:08 AM
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Hezbollah’s news website Al-Ahed News posted pictures of the rallies in Australia to its account on the social media platform Telegram.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 9:17:46 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,
"Hezbollah started attacking Israel from Lebanon unprovoked."
- No, that's the one lie I'm not going to let you get away with.

You just finished telling me how Jews must act to defend other Jews.
But then out the other side of your mouth you're saying:
'It's completely unprovoked, and Muslims should have no reason whatsoever to want to defend other Muslims'.
- You can't have your cake and eat it too sorry.

Hezbollah were founded during an Israeli occupation of Lebanon which they defeated, that's their purpose for existing.
The only reason they and the Houthis are attacking Israel is because Israel is committing atrocities on the Palestinians, and it's completely disproportionate, specifically designed to get Hezbollah, Houthis and Iran to react and force further escalation, whilst hiding behind the 'unprovoked' lie.

"Hezbollah started attacking Israel from Lebanon unprovoked."
It's the same story as "Russia attacked Ukraine unprovoked"
The United States has proxies and enemies in all the regions of the world, it likes to make war on it's adversaries but likes to have others fight it's battles for it and stay one step removed.

General Wesley Clark - 7 country's in 5 years
http://youtu.be/uljzqT7hdMk

"We're going to take out seven countries in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria Lebanon Libya Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran".

He also mentions Wolfowitz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfowitz_Doctrine
The Wolfozitz doctrine announces the U.S.'s status as the world's only remaining superpower following the collapse of the Soviet Union at the end of the Cold War and proclaims its main objective to be retaining that status.
"Our first objective is to prevent the re-emergence of a new rival..."

Also of note is the Brookings Institutes policy paper on Iran
'Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy toward Iran'
http://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 9:33:18 AM
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John Menadue Australian businessman, public commentator,
and former experienced diplomat who served as Secretary
to the Dept. of Prime Minister and Cabinet and in
other senior positions under both Whitlam and Fraser
governments writes that the reality is much more complex
and that it must be confronted if there is any chance to
avoid endless cycles of dehumanization, destruction and
death.

He writes that the present conflict commenced a hundred
years ago with the British decision to give another people's
(Palestinian) land to a third party, European Jews.
Over the last 100 years there has been a steady story of
ethnic cleansing.

Israel has waged war on Palestinians for decades. Their
task has been to rid the land of the Arab population.
Israel has been able to establish an apartheid regime with
the support of the West.

Menadue is one of many political commentators who
stresses that the violence won't end until the conditions
that produced it end.

That's all you have to remember.

Of course, most of us would prefer a change to happen
in the future for the betterment of all, instead of
having to continue to remember the past
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 9:38:18 AM
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[Cont.]
America is helping Israel facilitate this genocide, because it actually wants escalation, it wants to get it's adversaries to respond, or at least that was the old plan.
The fact Russia hasn't fallen and has chosen sides to defend Iran as well as China probably complicates things.
Israel tried to send some F-35s into Iran a few days back but Russia saw them, told Iran and the attack was called off, they may have been trying to take out Khamenei?
U.S is losing influence and it knows it.

Check that policy paper above:

'Chapter 5: Leave it to Bibi: allowing or encouraging an
Israeli Military strike'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 9:40:11 AM
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Hi AC,

Thanks for all your links and information.

It is appreciated.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 8 October 2024 9:43:48 AM
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