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Quo Vadis Israel?

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Having one-eyed "cheer-squads" doesn't help.

The violence won't end until the conditions that produced
it end.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 October 2024 10:41:31 AM
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"Dictator and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei gave his first sermon yesterday in nearly 5 years.

He stated:

“God willing, we will destroy Israel.”

Western policy makers should note that he didn’t say “God willing, we will have a two-state solution”.

Only fools in the western antisemitic community talk of a two state solution. Iran and their lackeys in Lebanon and Gaza don't want it. They want total victory and the death of every Jew in the Levant. They will of course accept a new state carved out of Palestine as a prelude to the destruction of Israel. But it won't stop them working toward that destruction.

Israel already tried a two state solution. It was called Gaza. They handed over an economically viable, free Gaza to the so-called Palestinians, having forcefully removed all Jews from the region. Within two years Hamas instituted a totalitarian regime there. Within three years rockets were being fired into Israel. and they never stopped, culminating the last year's orgy of rape and murder. Israel won't repeat the Gaza mistake again.

So neither side wants a two state solution. Only the fools in the west advocate it because they have no understanding of the facts.

This isn't difficult....
“God willing, we will destroy Israel.”
That's all you need to remember
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 7 October 2024 10:42:38 AM
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On this October 7th., Israel continues to take out selected buildings and personnel, and scare the bejesus out of Iran's and Lebanon's neighbours.

Israel is going in hard to finish business, and take justice for October 7th. last year.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 7 October 2024 10:59:21 AM
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Hi Yuyutsu,
To make your argument more realistic, I'd have to change things, and make Malaysia a colony of Australia under the control of Australians and I'd have to stipulate that Australia took over 5000 Malaysians and put them in it's own prisons, a large percentage held indefinitely without charge.

Only then can the hypothetical 'Broome' scenario more closely match the Israel / Palestine situation.

"And had the hostages not been returned even after a year, would you expect Australia to just give up and stop fighting?"

- A more relevant question is whether or not it's a good idea to begin fighting.
Should I be willing to send more good lives after bad, and if so how many more good lives should I be willing to sacrifice for those 100?

Tell me, are those 100 hostages worth getting another 1000 Israelis killed over?
And do you actually think you deserve to get them back after killing so many innocent people?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 October 2024 11:21:12 AM
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[Cont.]
"100,000's of Australians are still alive and relieved of great pains by taking Israeli medications which are the best - would you like that to be stopped as well?"
- Interesting scenario and question, as the issue now becomes 'do I let my own people suffer and die to protect the lives of foreigners'
Do I allow this out of control nation to act with free reign and conduct 'crimes against humanity' because my own people would suffer and die if I were to stand against them?
- I'll have to think about it more, it's a bit of a conundrum, but it does demonstrate that the right decision isn't so simple.

"Had Albanese or Dutton (I don't care which, for me they are one and the same) gone mad and bombed women and children in Indonesia, would you then support an international boycott on Australia, including on the half or so that voted against him?"
- If I think my government is doing the wrong thing, I would say so.
And yes I'd probably support it if I thought the only way to change the situation and stop my government doing the wrong thing, which would ultimately harm the entire country.

I support diplomacy and dialogue over conflict.

Finally though, I admit it's easy to sit here and make judgements when I have no skin in the game, but if the issue was 'my kids die or someone elses kids die' then it's obvious what I would choose regardless of the situation.

"And had it been 10,000's of Israeli women and children thus killed, would you evenly support their cause in the same way?"
- I'd like to think that I'd stand on the principles I do, against the harm of innocents regardless of which side was doing it.

Finally regarding nuclear weapons:
There's some speculation as to whether Iran tested a nuclear weapon several days back, but I can't say whether it's true or not.

Did Iran just conduct nuclear test in Semnan?
http://youtu.be/HzLnFgWBrZo

Escalation On 7th OCTOBER | Iranian NUCLEAR TEST?
http://youtu.be/HI3O002A-6Y
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 7 October 2024 11:30:44 AM
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The violence won't end until the conditions that
produced it end.

Israel has waged war on Palestinians for decades.
Their task has been to rid the land of its Arab
population.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 October 2024 11:32:59 AM
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