From Foxy...."If we continue with our "pro-Palestine" or "pro-Israel" stances and their implicit exclusion - Doesn't this
merely reproduce and perpetuate the nationalist antagonisms that has fuelled and continues to fuel the forever war between Jews and Palestinians."

Also from Foxy:...."Israel has waged war on Palestinians for decades. Their task has been to rid the land of its Arab population."

We've either got two Foxys on this site or one extremely hypocritical one.

"The violence won't end until the conditions that produced it end."

Very true. Once Hamas and Hezbollah are removed and the ability of the mullahs in Tehran to fund their murderous proxies has been eliminated, then the violence will end.

Australia used to be remarkable for its lack of anti-Semitism. Now there is a surge of anti-Semitism, in social media, left wing politics, and in the public domain.

It is more than passing strange that the surge in anti-Semitism has occurred along with mass immigration and anti-Western values, and no values at all newcomers.

The nastiness and threat of danger to Jews does also seem to have increased with the infestation of the Albanese government, whereby we have seen public support for terrorism on the streets; blatant breaches of s.18c of the Racial Discrimination Act, without even a hint from the horrid Albanese of prosecutions under the established laws allowing prosecution.

Those of us who read history, and have lived through some of it, should be feeling very uneasy in Australia these days.

Said The late Lord Sacks, eminent philosopher and one of Britain’s leading theologians:

“Multiculturalism embarked on for the highest motives was a disastrous policy misconceived and profoundly damaging to the social fabric of every society into which it was introduced. Intending to promote the integration of minority ethnic and religious groups into the wider society, instead it led to segregation. Meant to promote tolerance, it has given form to new and dire forms of intolerance.”

In 2016, the Oxford Dictionary selected ‘post-truth’ as their word of the year. There are posters who have always been, and always will be, trapped in a post-truth world, or more like an atmosphere, that only they can exist in.

In their cosy little atmosphere (bubble is another good word) they care only about their feelings: never facts. It's only about their feelings. Some of them are aware of the truth, but they won't let it get in the way of their preferences. Others are willing to blatantly propagate lies that suit their politics and ideology.

Unfortunately, those described cannot recognise the phenomenon in themselves; and when alerted to it, immediately try to project it onto others. We might see them scuttling out from behind the skirting boards even here.

Removing Hamas and Hezbolah won't change anything.
As long as the conditions remain the same in
Israel's treatment of the Palestinians - other
organizations will arise. That's why the statement -
that violence won't end until the conditions
that produced it end. Removing one organizations -
won't help. It will merely be replaced by another.
Any one with any logic should be able to see that.

"Removing Hamas and Hezbolah won't change anything."

You keep saying you want to try something new. (BTW two states isn't something new....its already been tried.)

Removing Iran's proxies hasn't been tried. Its something new. But you don't want to try it.

We all know why even though you can't even admit it to yourself. `The only new thing you want is the removal of the hated Jews.

This isn't difficult....
“God willing, we will destroy Israel.”
That's all you need to remember

mhaze,

Try thinking instead.