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ICC Seeks Arrest Warrants For Israel , Hamas Leaders.

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mhaze,

Civilian deaths in Gaza will stop when the Zionist stop murdering innocent civilians. Its not rocket science mhaze, but it might be for you. Just as a matter of interest how many dead women and children in Gaza is an acceptable number to you. If you haven't got an exact number, you can say, as many as the Zionist want to murder, or can say, all of them.

I can understand why the likes of you are against a two state solution. Yep, one state for the Zionists, and who is going to live in the other state? After all its clear what you believe should happen to the Palestinians.

AND, the point of you pic, well it looks like what it said; BUT you might think it proves the "big lie" and the Palestinians are really well off at the hands of the Zionists, no pal not the 30,000 plus who have been murdered thus far. Just as the Nazis showed the world how well they were looking after the Jews in Auschwitz. Propaganda can do wonders, don't you agree?
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 26 May 2024 6:47:44 PM
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Dear Paul,

«Civilian deaths in Gaza will stop when the Zionist stop murdering innocent civilians.»

When have you last seen a Zionist?
Are you really that old?

Zionism fulfilled its mission and ended with the creation of the state of Israel, in 1948.

There are three cohorts who still speak of Zionism even in the 21st century:

1) Messianic Jews and their supporters - because they do not accept the secular-liberal state of Israel as it is, instead claiming that they are the *real* Zionists who are working towards a theocratic Israel ruled by their King=Messiah.

2) Ultra-Orthodox Jews who see themselves as "Palestinians", also not recognising the secular state of Israel, derogatively calling its citizens "Zionists" and wishing to live instead under Arab-Palestinian rule.

3) Those who never accepted the existence of Israel, therefore claiming that it was never created thus the people that live there must still be 'Zionists'.

Which of these is yours?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 26 May 2024 10:08:21 PM
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"Civilian deaths in Gaza will stop when the Zionist stop murdering innocent civilians. "

Paul it seems is in favour of a system where Hamas terrorists are allowed to rape, murder, kidnap and execute Israeli women and children and, so long as they can find a burqa to hide behind, be left unscathed. Ready for the next bout of rape, murder, kidnap and execution.

Now Paul might be in favour of Israel turning the other cheek, but no society which wants to survive can accept such a situation. Israel won't.

" Just as a matter of interest how many dead women and children in Gaza is an acceptable number to you"

No number is acceptable. That's why I advocate Hamas surrendering immediately, to stop the carnage. Are you in favour of that Paul? Thought not.

"I can understand why the likes of you are against a two state solution. "

Its not just me. The so-called Palestinians are also opposed to it which is why they've rejected Israeli's offer for a state 5 times in the past 70 years. But you don't want that to be true, therefore it isn't.

"AND, the point of you pic, well it looks like what it said; "

A people who are under daily stress of imminent death and on the brink of famine (or already in a famine depending on who you beleive), don't go down to the beach for a pleasant Sunday afternoon dip.
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 27 May 2024 10:10:40 AM
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An interesting juxtaposition:

Israel finds the bodies of murdered hostages under buildings controlled by the UN.

Thereafter the UN demands Israel stops looking and leave the area.

Not that they're trying to hide anything!
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 27 May 2024 10:12:55 AM
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It is unfortunate that anti-Semitism charges are
levelled against anyone who criticizes Israel's
policies and treatment of Palestinians. Equating
this issue with hating people.

People who've criticized Stalin, Putin, or the Soviet
regime did not hate Russians. People who criticized
Hitler did not hate Germans. People who criticized
the actions of British colonialism did not hate the
British people. Criticism of American policies did not
equate with hatred of Americans.

And the list goes on.

We're all aware, or should be, of anti-Semitic history.
How the Jewish people have suffered at the hands of others
for centuries. And of course we must not be silent when
people of any faith are attacked or demeaned.

But this does not excuse the oppressed of history wielding
the power of the oppressors.

We should stand against the state of Israel today - due to
PM Netanyahu's tactics - which have been to disenfranchise
a segment of the citizenship in the region.

Both institutional and physical violence against the
Palestinians must be condemned. Israel's anti-Arab
administration requires denouncement.

But lets be clear. Standing against Israel does not mean
that we should stand with Hamas . They also have
fallen short off the mark. In our analysis, we need to also
be able to criticize their actions.

Hopefully the ICC's arrest warrants will bring some
positive results for both sides. Things cannot continue
as they have to date - with impunity.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 27 May 2024 10:57:06 AM
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Putin's 'Free Palestine' Pledge Shocks Israel; Russia Rejects Netanyahu's Objection
Russia recognises Palestinian statehood
http://youtu.be/CWN_pCBl-SM

The United States is a declining world power, and is losing influence in the M/E.
China mediated the peace between Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Russia and China are gaining influence in Africa and with global south nations.
And the world backs Palestinian statehood.

BRICS is the first time the western monetary system has been seriously challenged, and many countries are lining up to join.
There will be a BRICS summit in Kazan in October under Russian chairmanship.

Israel would probably like to try and start a world war.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 27 May 2024 10:58:22 AM
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