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ICC Seeks Arrest Warrants For Israel , Hamas Leaders.

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The Guardian writes that"

"We've all been profoundly shaken by recent events in
Israel and Gaza. This conflict marks the start of a
chapter that is likely to affect millions of lives, both
in the Middle East and further afield for years to come."

The ICC's prosecutor, Karim Khan, has announced that
he was pursuing arrest warrants for Israeli PM Benjamin
Netanyahu and the Israeli Defence Minister - Yoav Gallant.

Khan is also pursuing the warrants of three leading Hamas
figures - Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri -
also known as Mohammed Delf, and Ismail Haniyeh, over
Hamas's attack on Israel on 7th October 2023.

We're told that the evidence will be considered by a panel
of three judges before a decision is made.

Is this a way to force both sides of this conflict to
come to the table for peace negotiations ?

Can anything positive be achieved by these actions?

Is it worth a try?

Will either side take note of this attempt by the Court?

Your thoughts please.
Without personal attacks.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 21 May 2024 2:13:47 PM
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What I cannot understand, is why Yoav Gallant is included on this list:
as defence minister he constantly tries to moderate Netanyahu and soften his orders. The Nazis in Netanyahu's coalition keep asking Netanyahu to sack him. And why are THEY not on the list?

While Netanyahu undoubtedly deserves to be locked up, this measure is very unlikely to achieve it - he just wouldn't travel anywhere outside Israel except the U.S.A (which is not a member of the ICC).

Most Israelis believe that Netanyahu should be jailed for his crimes against the Israeli people, rather than against "Palestinians".

On the down-side, this measure somewhat improves Netanyahu's political position by making him kind of a martyr. Even the Israeli opposition, though they would love to see Netanyahu jailed, better still hanged, cannot openly agree to the placing of Netanyahu on the same list as Hamas leaders.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 11:59:08 AM
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I totally agree with the ICC action. However there is one war criminal whose name is not included SLEEPY JOE BIDEN, Biden is just as coupable in the murderous genocide being committed in Gaze by the Zionists as anyone. I totally agree that the members of Hamas named, are also war criminals.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:18:57 PM
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It appears that the Court is doing the job for which
it was created. It's trying to end impunity through
the international justice system and to hold those
responsible of grave international crimes to account, and
in this way to prevent future atrocities from happening
again.

It's our responsibility to support the ICC and allow it to
relentlessly pursue accountability.

In this conflict - both sides need to be held to account.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 12:46:08 PM
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Yuyutsu,

Regarding Netanyahu?

We're told that "Investigations and charges take time. But
the ICC is now acting fast. It took only 4 weeks for the
pre-trial chamber to issue an arrest warrant for Putin in
2023."

"If an arrest warrant is issued against Netanyahu it will mean
he can no longer travel to 124 states that are party to the
ICC and wish to abide by their commitment to international law."

"If he does he could be arrested and sent to the ICC in
The Hague where he would then face trial. Netanyahu's trial
could also occur in Israel if a future government is willing
to abide by international law."

"While it is unlikely that Netanyahu will end up at the ICC.
It is not impossible. But regardless the ICC decision has
wide political implications. He's been given a label he will
never be able to shake."

There's more at the following link:

http://theconversation.com/iccs-milestone-bid-for-netanyahu-arrest-warrant-will-have-wide-political-impact-even-if-he-evades-the-court-230478
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 1:48:27 PM
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Dear Foxy,

Regarding Netanyahu, we agree that he should be hanged, drawn and quartered.

But I disagree with the inclusion of Yoav Gallant on those charges.
No other Defence Minister could successfully stand up against his/her boss, Netanyahu, and relatively moderate his policies to the extent Gallant did.

«he can no longer travel to 124 states that are party to the ICC»

Thus the Netanyahus will no longer be able to take their dirty laundry (11 suitcases at a time) to Portugal for dry cleaning - but they could still take these suitcases to America, to be cleaned for free in the White-House's official guest-house.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 22 May 2024 3:54:40 PM
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