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Screams before Silence.

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Much of the world is trying very hard to forget that the current mayhem in Gaza was bought on by the most horrific massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.

We even see some now denying that the events of 7 October 2023 even occurred.

I know there are many here who will avert their eyes and not want to see the truth but I just thought it was important that this documentary receive as wide a distribution as possible. So watch it/don't watch it. Its your conscience.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAr9oGSXgak
Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 6:14:44 PM
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Dear Mhaze,

It is not possible to watch the clip you pointed at which demands to first "confirm your age" - not unless one is willing to get in bed with those filthy internet corporations.

«the current mayhem in Gaza was bought on by the most horrific massacre of Jews since the Holocaust.»

That massacre had nothing particular to do with Jews: Arab Israelis, including devout Muslims, were murdered too, as well as Buddhist Thai agricultural workers and a Christian Philipina carer of an elderly Israeli.

Hamas hates the Israelis because they introduced modernity and liberalism into the region, and unlike the German-Nazi holocaust, not specifically because most of them also happen to be Jews.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 7:52:16 AM
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We should not ignore the violence against Israelis
and exclusively focus on the plight of the Palestinian
people. The same as we should not ignore the violence
against Palestinians and exclusively focus on the plight
of the Israelis. Hamas's horrific attack, which included
physical and psychological torture, mass rape and the
taking of more than 200 hostages left Israeli society
deeply traumatised.

On the other hand Israel's land grabs, occupation and
the mistreatment of Palestinians for decades, and now
the bombardment of Gaza and the travesty going on there
leaves the Palestinians also deeply traumatised.

The responses that focus only on either Palestinian or
Israeli victimhood and dismiss either Israel's or Palestine's
experiences of violence and terror are likely to contribute
to both sides senses of isolation and anger.

The more that both sides feel abandoned by the international
community the harder it is going to be to bring a workable
and lasting peace between the Israelis and Palestinians.

The situation is dire enough without making things worse
and the situation bad by taking sides.

My heart goes out to the innocents on both sides.
Revenge does not amount to victory.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 9:27:19 AM
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Nothing, even the most horrific evidence of Hamas/UNRWA/Gazan/Islamic animalism will convince the "bother-siders". There would would have been no war, no atrocities, noone killed, if the disgusting animals from Gaza had not committed their filthy crimes against Israeli non-combatants: innocent people just leading ordinary lives. Slaughtered, raped and mutilated by cowardly hyenas just because of their religion - not bullsh-t about 'stolen land'. Just pure hatred.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 10:38:10 AM
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Apparently "hatred" is not considered an appropriate
answer to what motivates Palestinians in this conflict.
The Israelis need to control their habit of pissing
the Palestinians off.

Some people really suck the nice out of others.

Just saying,. And trying not to take sides.
(smile).
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 11:13:31 AM
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Dear Ttbn,

«Slaughtered, raped and mutilated by cowardly hyenas just because of their religion»

What's religion to do with it?

Fatima Abu-Arar, a 32 year old mother of 9, was murdered on October 7th by Hamas at an Israeli road intersection close to Gaza.
She was shot multiple times by a convoy of Hamas motorcycles who could easily see that she was Muslim woman wearing the Hijab, each shooting her in turn as they passed.
On her last dying moments she repeated the final Muslim recitation: "There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet".

The Quran forbids killing women and children.
The Quran forbids intoxication: those Nukhba motorcyclists were on amphetamines.

No, there could not be a religious motive for these murders.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 1:37:56 PM
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