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Media bias towards Israeli deaths over Palestinians in Gaza

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This whole silly post and pointless arguments could have been avoided with four words in answer to its heading: 'The opposite is true'.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 23 February 2024 9:09:58 AM
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Dear Critic,

«Israel gets most of it's water from West Bank.
They steal it then deprive the Palestinians of it.
The Palestinians have rain water tanks on their roofs in Gaza because Israel routinely cuts off supply.
And considering they have like 500 bln in gas reserves offshore in Gaza, they have plenty of money to build a damn power plant, sewerage, nit treatments and whatever else.
How about Israel start paying for the organs they harvest from Palestinians and trade in?
How about they pay reparations for 80 years of terrorism for land theft?»

When it comes to views, you have some good points to make.
But when it comes to facts, you spoil the appreciation of these points.

Israel's water does not come from the West Bank.
Israel has plenty of its own water and provides some for Jordan as well.
(it's the West-Bank Jewish settlers who steal their neighbours' water for their swimming-pools and green lawns as well as just because they are mean, not Israel)

Nearly everyone has water tanks on their roof in that region, including Israelis, always had, that is just part of the Middle-Eastern culture where roofs are typically flat.

Israel has enough gas reserves of its own.
It stopped pumping gas due to the war.
It is in Israel's interest to have peace so it can produce gas again.

Yes, the Gazans could have done a lot with their gas, I wish they did, but Hamas doesn't let them and instead takes and uses whatever they get to build tunnels and purchase weapons.

Israel does not harvest organs from anyone other than volunteers.

If it ever comes to reparations for land theft and terrorism, including the theft of Jewish lands in Arab countries, then on balance the Arabs would have to pay more.
(that does not mean that I support land-theft or terrorism, even in return)
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 23 February 2024 9:56:00 AM
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How Israel created a water crisis for Palestinians – video
http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2023/nov/23/how-israel-created-a-water-crisis-for-palestinians-video

‘A cruel harvest of the poor’: Israeli allegedly behind human organ black market arrested in Cyprus
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/08/a-cruel-harvest-of-the-poor-israeli-allegedly-behind-human-organ-black-market-arrested-in-cyprus/

Israel 'stealing organs' from bodies in Gaza, alleges human rights group
http://www.euronews.com/2023/11/27/israel-stealing-organs-from-bodies-in-gaza-alleges-human-right-group
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 23 February 2024 10:53:10 AM
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Gaza Gas Reserves Israel's Real Agenda In Hamas War? EU, US Join Energy Race Post Russia Ukraine War
http://youtu.be/XFwORpILJJY

I don't have the mindset to dig into all these issues right now, and I admit I may sometimes get things wrong or out of context, but there's always a basis for the things I say.

As for Syria you mentioned earlier, I think members of the government recently announced an intention to go to war with Israel over the Golan Heights.
- Don't know if it's just tough talk or not.

US companies are taking oil and gas from Golan Heights as well, look up 'Genie Energy' there are members of previous US executive branch and other bigwigs as shareholders.
Syria needs to get it's land back that America occupies.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 23 February 2024 11:03:40 AM
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This is worth a look: China's take on the situation.
Chinese representative speaks in english and comes across very statesman-like.

China Counters US Point By Point At ICJ | Israel’s Occupation Of Palestine
http://youtu.be/LaCrM0L3YBk

Ma Xinmin, China's Foreign Ministry's legal adviser and representative at the ICJ:
"Palestinians have an 'Inalienable Right' to use force for self-determination against foreign oppression"

"Miss President, distinguished members of the Court, it is a great honor and privilege to appear before you on behalf of China.
China is committed to promoting the rule of law in international relations, stands in firm support of the court in preserving and safeguarding international peace and security, international order, fairness and Justice.
Dealing with the question of Palestinian served as a litmus test for collective conscience of humanity, the wisdom of United Nations and the authority of international law..."

Also...

US asks world court not to call for Israeli pullout from Palestinian territories
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2024/feb/21/us-israel-icj-ruling-palestine
'US calls for international court of justice to consider Israel’s security needs in hearings on legal status of occupied territories'

- So China is supporting international law, and the US is begging 'Please ICJ, don't force Israel to follow international law'.

To be fair I should probably add this article:
Israel a no-show at the ICJ, but its advocates argue the ‘occupation’ isn’t illegal
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-a-no-show-at-the-icj-but-its-advocates-argue-the-occupation-isnt-illegal/

'consider Israel’s security needs' - US says...
- The issue may have some validity, but it's also a bit hypocritical coming from the US given what it's doing.

The war in Ukraine has cost half a million Ukrainian lives because the US didn't give a hoot about Russia's security interests and they want to put NATO nukes in Ukraine, on Russia's borders.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Friday, 23 February 2024 1:43:08 PM
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Looks like I'll do 'Part II of Western Thieving Hypocrites'

G7 finds ‘experts’ to declare theft of Russian assets legal
http://www.rt.com/news/592958-g7-russian-assets-scholars/

(This article relates to a Bloomberg article entitled:
Seizing Frozen Russian Assets Over Ukraine War Wins Endorsement of Legal Experts)

>>Having given our most serious consideration to this issue, we have concluded that it would be lawful, under international law, for States which have frozen Russian State assets to take additional countermeasures against Russia, given its ongoing breach of the most fundamental rules of international law,” the signatories claimed.

According to their case, Russian state assets could be seized “as compensation for the damage that has resulted directly from Russia’s unlawful conduct,” which they define as an “invasion” and “occupation” of parts of Ukraine.

The rules they allege Moscow violated “are indispensable to the foundation upon which the entire rules-based order is built,” the letter states. The group also goes on to argue that the West’s sanctions and freezing of Russian assets were “lawful countermeasures” but that any reprisal by Moscow would be illegal and illegitimate.<<

'rules-based order' - are you freaking kidding me?
We just went through this in my previous comment yesterday...

US asks world court not to call for Israeli pullout from Palestinian territories
http://www.theguardian.com/law/2024/feb/21/us-israel-icj-ruling-palestine
'US calls for international court of justice to consider Israel’s security needs in hearings on legal status of occupied territories'

- So China is supporting international law, and the US is begging 'Please ICJ, don't force Israel to follow international law'.

When are you lot going to realise that the west are just common thieves and hypocrites?
America occupies land in Syria, only stealing that was not a matter of US security interests.

Rules-based Order... Rules for thee, but not for me.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Saturday, 24 February 2024 7:34:53 AM
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