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Always The Victim.

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"That is mostly true, except for the word "murdered": murder requires a deliberate intent to kill and I do not believe that to be the case."

Hows does one drop a bomb with enough destructive power to destroy an entire city block of multiple buildings Yuyutsu
- How does one drop a bomb with that much destructive power on places such as schools, hospitals, churches etc.
- and then make the argument 'they did not intend to kill'?
It's ridiculous to suggest they 'do not intend to kill'.
Not only that, they use AI apps for military applications, that have detailed maps of the whole of Gaza, every apartment building and all occupants who live there, so they can simulate a bomb detonating in a certain place and with a certain destructive power, and they can get an accurate projection of the amount of people likely to be killed and wounded.

Israel knows the likely number of dead and wounded of every strike before they even launch it.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 1 January 2024 12:38:13 AM
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Good Morning and
Happy New Year Everyone!
Let us hope that this year will be a better one.

I have read all of your posts and am grateful for
your sharing your opinions in this discussion.
I don't agree that criticisizing Israel makes you
a Jew-hater or that it's anti-Semitic to do so.
Many Jews are also critical of Israel. And Israel's
long standing status as the victim in the eyes of
the global community has gradually eroded since
the first intifada (1987 - 1993).

It has proven increasingly difficult to rebuild.

Today- Israel's efforts to assert its right to
self-defence that labels Hamas as a terrorist
group has encountered severe pushback.

Many views these claims as thinly veiled attempts
to divert attention from Israel's historical track
record of pursuing colonialist, discriminatory and
aggressive policies against Palestinians dating back
to its foundation more than seven decades ago.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 January 2024 8:18:40 AM
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Much of the lying and misinformation that sustains anti-Semitism and hatred of Israel is generated by the United Nations, one of the the main culprits being its agency UNRWA, the United Nations Work and Relief Agency, co-funded by Australia to the tune of $20 million a year. There is also a begging web page where individual fools can be parted from their money.

. This agency cheered the terror attack, massacre and rape by Hamas Israeli civilians on October 7.
. Since then, UNRWA has continually spread misinformation and propaganda about Israeli military actions, while staying quiet about Hamas atrocities. (our own hate-speaker on OLO copies them).
. The schools run by UNRWA are depots for Hamas arms. Hamas uses the schools as bases.
. UNRWA tweets lies easily accessed by hate-speakers globally as well as Australia.
. They claimed that 20,000 civilians had been killed in Gaza, when the official report from the the Gazan Ministry of Health report 8,000 deaths - all Hamas terrorists.
. UNRWA calls for ceasefires by Israel, but never calls for Hamas to stop fighting.
. UNRWA lies about Israel interfering with civilian aid, when Hamas deliberately blocks aid and steals it from its own people.

As for all the UNRWA whining about civilians being killed, Hamas terrorists have caused the deaths by embedding themselves where civilians live, and in schools and hospitals. The humanitarian advice by Israel to civilians to move before military action occurs is called ‘forced displacement’ by these UNRWA creeps.

Another UNRWA lie is the one about Gaza enduring the ‘worst humanitarian crisis in the region’, when other Islamic-caused conflicts have been much worse:
. 300,000 civilians killed in Syria
. 14 million Syrians had to flee.
. In Yemen, 4.5 million displaced. 21 million in dire need.

But, when Jewish Israel, the only democracy in the Middle East is involved, the lies are never ending; lies that are believed by hate-speakers, weirdos and morons - and Armchair Critic.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 January 2024 8:39:29 AM
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It's becoming clear to many that Israel has waged a
ruthless campaign on land, sea, and air cutting off
Gaza's access to essentials such as water, electricity,
fuel, food and medicine, systematically demolishing their
homes, hospitals, schools, and infrastructure.

There is a direct consequence of this brutality,
involving the mass killing of Palestinians through Israel's
vast arsenal of weapons and ammunition.

What's worse Israel has made little attempt to conceal
its actions. Instead it has orchestrated the annihilation
of a people before the eyes of the world - a genocide
that is virtually unparalleled, and comparable only
to the horrors perpetrated by Nazis during the second world
war.

It now appears as though Israel - a state that claims to
represent Jews worldwide is mirroring the behaviour of its
Nazi oppressors. And as many Jews worldwide and in Israel
cry - "Not in my name you don't!"

The global community is waking up. Wide-spread demonstrations
in capitals and major cities of Western countries including -
Washington, New York, London, Berlin, Paris, Madrid, Vienna,
Amsterdam, Istanbul, Jordon, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Sydney,
Melbourne, among others have all shown support for the
Palestinian cause.

Powerful slogans echo across the streets demanding an end to
the genocidal war against Palestinians.

Protestors emphasize people's right to life, freedom, equality,
and dignity. Universal principles that should apply to all
human beings regardless of their geographic location or
ethnicity.

Claiming that all this is a form of self-defence - and having
a victimhood stance - no longer works from such a relentless
powerfully armed and strong state who's gone above and beyond
any acceptable retaliation.

Israel never in its 75th year history has previously
found itself
isolated and ostracized across the world including in the
West and among Jewish citizens as it is today. This is the
direct consequence of its continued brutality and insistence
that it will keep on doing what it is doing.

It's too frightening to contemplate what could happen next
if this does not stop.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 January 2024 8:56:28 AM
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As for the claim that Israel is the only democracy in
the Middle East?

This has no historical foundation.

One has to only do the research to learn about how
Israel has treated and continues to treat, its non-Jewish
citizens to military rule based on draconian regulations
that deny Palestinians basic human rights or civil rights.

The appalling acts of Palestinians and Arab
terrorists can't be ignored. And their cruelty, insanity,
and murder are facts. But we need to ask ourselves - why?

Of course when you criticize Israel - you get all sorts of
labels thrown at you. You're not allowed to be critical
of Israel. That is beginning to change as people
are slowly waking up to the truth.

The Law of Return states that any Jew born anywhere in the
world can go and live in Israel. No Palestinian can. This
is wrong. It is not acceptable. And criticizing Israel for
it does not make anyone a Jew-hater. It means that someone sees
the wrongs and wants them to be fixed.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 1 January 2024 9:26:18 AM
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Foxy

As I have said there is "no turning anti-Semites". You are the proof of that statement. You just keep on searching for "references" that suit your bigotry. You and Armchair Critic are a sour and bitter pair.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 1 January 2024 11:20:10 AM
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