Hi Yuyutsu,
I was agreeing to the withdraw to 1967 borders part of your comment, sorry.

"Should Israel withdraw unilaterally, as I suggest and hope, from all the territories it took in 1967, returning to its pre-1967 borders, and should despite that Israel still be attacked afterwards by anyone without provocation, will you then side with Israel?"

Assuming they can come to some agreement where there's no unresolved issues from the 1948 - 1967 period, or earlier
- as if there are they need to be addressed so it can be put in the past..
Otherwise it's still an unresolved open wound.

- Yes ABSOLUTELY, If Palestinians break the peace, I will denounce it and side with Israel.
But if Israel breaks the peace, I will denounce it and side with the Palestinians.

I said in the beginning I really didn't support one side over the other in particular, but if forced to make a choice I'd have to support the occupied over the occupier.
I said this isn't about religions but about humanity.

The first thing (in my mind) that needs to happen is recognition of each others borders.
'You leave us to live our own lives in peace and we shall do the same for you'
Neither side gets everything they want, but there has to be compromise for the sake of peace or it won't ever happen.
- Where else can peace realistically begin?
First both sides need to reconcile.

[Cont.]
"Which is why Israel must keep its nukes, and hopefully never have to use them. Iran never cared about "Palestinians" - its regime will keep hating Israel forever just because Israel used to be the deposed Shah's best friend."

Fair enough, but if Iran keeps conducting assassinations on foreign soil, they are creating a context where Iran can say argue they need them for a deterrent, then Saudi Arabia will want them... etc.
- Iran are getting bolder - they did the same on the Mossad HQ in Erbil, Iraq yesterday.

Too many dead kids, they deserve a chance and a future too, don't they?
And they will never have one until everyone else starts being adults.

Would it work in reality, would the peace hold?
I don't know, there's a lot of animosity between these two peoples.

Either we let this thing blow up and hundreds of thousands more people die for nothing;
Or we try to do something different, give real peace a chance, try to all get along and move on.
What other choice is there?

I may have other 'Anti-Semitic' criticisms...
(Messianic ideas and overrepresentation of media influence and other nations politics) put them aside
As for this, just give me a reason not to have to choose one side over the other.
Israel needs to reconcile with Palestinians, compromise and state it's borders.

Now, lets talk about 'Al Aqsa Flood'
- The name of the Hamas operation on October 7.

If you were going to write a movie about these events, you'd probably have to go back a week earlier.

Oct 02, 2023 - Israeli police enter Al Aqsa Mosque during tense Jewish holiday
http://www.thenationalnews.com/mena/2023/10/02/israel-tightens-security-around-al-aqsa-as-settlers-enter-compound/
'Dozens of settlers break into compound in successive groups through Moroccan Gate'

Oct 02, 2023 - Israeli police escorts nearly 1,500 Jewish settlers into Al-Aqsa Mosque as Sukkot holiday arrives
http://www.newarab.com/news/sukkot-about-1500-israeli-settlers-allowed-al-aqsa
According to the Islamic al-Awqaf authority, 1,142 settlers entered the Al-Aqsa Mosque through the al-Magahrabeh Gate between 07:00 a.m. and 11:30 a.m. An additional 326 entered after the conclusion of the afternoon Muslim prayer.

Oct 03,2023 - Hundreds of Israeli settlers storm Al-Aqsa complex on 4th day of Sukkot holiday
http://www.anews.com.tr/middle-east/2023/10/03/hundreds-of-israeli-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-complex-on-4th-day-of-sukkot-holiday
Hundreds of Israeli settlers on Tuesday forced their way into the flashpoint Al-Aqsa Mosque complex in occupied East Jerusalem on the fourth day of the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, according to the Islamic Waqf Department.

Oct 5, 2023 Hundreds of illegal Israel settlers storm Al-Aqsa complex on 5th day of Sukkot holiday
http://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20231005-hundreds-of-illegal-israel-settlers-storm-al-aqsa-complex-on-5th-day-of-sukkot-holiday/
Hundreds of illegal Israeli settlers, on Thursday, forced their way into the flashpoint Al-Aqsa Mosque complex in Occupied East Jerusalem on the fifth day of the Jewish holiday of Sukkot, according to the Islamic Waqf Department, Anadolu Agency reports.
In a statement, the department said that at least 240 settlers entered the site under the protection of Israeli police.

Oct 4, 2023 On the sixth day of Sukkot Jewish holiday, hundreds of Israeli fanatics break into Jerusalem's Aqsa mosque
http://english.wafa.ps/Pages/Details/137922
Hundreds of fanatic Israeli settlers Thursday morning broke into the compounds of al-Aqsa Mosque under heavy protection from the Israeli police, marking the sixth day of the Jewish holiday of Sukkot.
The extremist settlers, divded into groups, raided the holy Islamic Mosque and took provocative tours in its compounds.
It added that the settlers performed Talmudic rituals in the eastern part of the Mosque.

17 Sep 2023 - Israeli forces attack Palestinian worshippers at Al-Aqsa Mosque
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/9/17/israeli-forces-attack-palestinian-worshippers-at-al-aqsa-mosque

"Israeli forces have attacked Palestinian worshippers at Bab as-Silsila, one of the main entrances to the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound in occupied East Jerusalem, according to local sources.

Israeli forces imposed tight security measures on Sunday, ejecting worshippers from Al-Aqsa Mosque and intensifying their presence around it, denying access to any Palestinian below the age of 50 to clear the way for Israeli settlers on Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year."

- So, tensions had been rising for several weeks prior to Oct 7.

Dear Critic,

I was not following closely on the Al-Aqsa events at the time, because there is nothing I can do about it other than vomit.

Had I been able to do just one good service for humanity, I would land 1,000 tons of supersonic bombs to vapourise that cursed Western Wall in Jerusalem, being the source of power and inspiration for the criminal Jewish Messianic settlers (I would of course do so in the middle of the night in order to minimise the casualties).

Need I say any more on that topic?

Nevertheless, the peace-loving people who were murdered in the Kibbutzim surrounding Gaza and the Nova music festival nearby, and those who now suffer unbelievable pains as hostages in Gaza's tunnels, are ANYTHING BUT the bloody Jewish settlers who provoke Muslims in Al-Aqsa, and whom I would gladly send to those tunnels instead.

«Assuming they can come to some agreement where there's no unresolved issues from the 1948 - 1967 period, or earlier»

Well you and I know that this is an impossible fence to cross.

«Otherwise it's still an unresolved open wound.»

Indeed, but an open wound is better than an open occupation.
If you insist on the impossible then nothing can happen for the better.

«The first thing (in my mind) that needs to happen is recognition of each others borders.»

As far as I am concerned, the border of Israel is that of June 4th, 1967.

Some Arabs will never ever recognise Israel's existence, hence no chance they will recognise that border.
Nevermind, Israel can and should continue even without such recognition. I hope it at least gets yours then.

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«Where else can peace realistically begin?
First both sides need to reconcile.»

Peace and reconciliation in that region are not realistic goals.
Still, Israel's 1967 occupation must end, Israel cannot afford to wait for peace, forever.

«Too many dead kids, they deserve a chance and a future too, don't they?
And they will never have one until everyone else starts being adults.»

If you seriously want an answer then I could be tempted to provide you with a metaphysical answer,
but that would take us right off the topic.

«Iran are getting bolder - they did the same on the Mossad HQ in Erbil, Iraq yesterday»

That's what they claim. Please allow me to doubt it.

«Would it work in reality, would the peace hold?»

Peace is unrealistic, but a longer cease-fire is.

«I don't know, there's a lot of animosity between these two peoples.»

The tragedy is that there are more than two people there.
Most ordinary people hold no animosity, but the fanatics on both sides won't allow them to live peacefully.