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Always The Victim.

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War is brutal and horrible.
ttbn,
Unfortunately, war seems to be the only alternative to dealing with the stupid who either cause wars or for the handful of logical thinkers who are trying to limit them. You have to fight stupidity with brutal force because talking sense to them is a proven waste of time.
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 4 January 2024 9:32:54 AM
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Rising public support for Palestinian rights reflects
Israel's harsh, often criminal policies which are now
visible for the whole world to see every day - including
the brutality in Gaza. It reveals the eroding of
traditional pro-Israel propaganda in the face of
more visible and explicitly apartheid policies by
Israel and it signals how people across the globe
recognize the Palestinian suffering and their battle for
national rights as being the last anti-colonial
struggle in the world.

Calls for justice are becoming stronger. People are
marching in the streets for social justice and liberty
as good people have always done to fix the world's
weaknesses and right its wrongs.

People all over the world want a ceasefire in Gaza
and equal rights for both Israelis and Palestinians.
It is a battleground and is as important as the current
military face-off over Gaza in this century-old conflict.

The rising public support for Palestinian rights reflects
Israel's harsh, often criminal policies
which are now visible for the whole world to see every day -
including the brutality in Gaza. Call for justice are getting
stronger. Jews not only in Israel but all over the world
are joining into the protests. with placards that spell out -
"Not In My Name You Don't."

We should not be taken in by diversionary propaganda -
like accusations of "Jew hatred," and "anti-semitism," these
tactics will mount. However this is not about any of that.
This is about working for a better world, social justice
and liberty. And it is what good people have always
tried to do - to fix the world's weaknesses and right its
wrongs.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 4 January 2024 9:37:49 AM
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In Quantum Mechanics and Politics- measuring biases the measurement in terms of the observing ideology.

Woke/Communists always want to be seen as the ones protecting the underdog- not to fix the problem but to get power legitimacy. Remember communist nations are the worst and most illegitimate.

Most believe in forms of imperfect authority. Woke and Communists seemingly criticise authority except their authority (academy/ universities). The Declaration Of Independence gives hints for better authority- also The Catholic concept of subsidiarity. Others- Aristotle and Nietzsche studied different political systems and their superiority and inferiority rather than their features and benefits. There is also much to learn from animal hierarchies relation to human communities (Jordan Peterson).

Everyone justifies their own power- their particular tyranny. I believe that local tyranny is superior to global tyranny. But some believe there are advantages of global tyranny. Who watches the watchers is often a question. But some form of aristocracy seems necessary. Are authorities bad or just stupid. Often power is justified by demonstrating the high moral ground (but it may be difficult to "justify" (talk) and "do justice" (do) concurrently).

Hebrew's are partially to blame in most if not all of their problems- we all are. What rules we use to judge the situation and to improve it?- everyone has the right to judge things according to their own principles- but some principles are more reliable than others in certain contexts.

The Hebrew culture is originally apparently a Middle Eastern culture which influenced and was influenced by European culture about 2000 years ago. Middle Eastern peoples have been invading Europe since ancient times- the Persian's fought with the Spartan's and Alexander and The Slav Hordes migrated into Europe, the Middle Easterners fought Roman's in Judea, Parthia, took Constantinople. The Bible describes Middle Easterners as 12 tribes out of Egypt. At some point Rome felt that it needed to control and civilize The Mediterranean Sea being key transport infrastructure (recently The Woke have "civilized" domains of their own).

Spiraling technology enables increasing range and scale of military, communications, travel, government- don't make ourselves a tool of technology.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 4 January 2024 10:09:22 AM
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Unlike Trotsky's hyper extreme "permanent revolution" (against Class Repressive Tradition) favouring nihilistic "scorched earth" Change (Change Momentum)- most believe in Tradition with some small amount of Change (Tradition Momentum).
Trotsky's "permanent revolution" atomizes societies to concentrate power- "nationalizing children" and society into age classes, stealing children from their families, creating permanent war between the sexes- destroying families, benefitting foreign actors.

Dominance of hydrocarbons is critical to world stability (Second Industrial Revolution). Israel's place in the hydrocarbon rich Middle East enables relative world stability costing local Middle Eastern instability.

Seemingly Hebrew's dominate US Institution's contradicting The Declaration Of Independence. OTOH the US embeds separation of church and state- blind to Hebrew dominance at US formation.

The organisations of the US and Christianity face similar issues with Judaism- eroded by "the friendly Hebrew" hypothesis- statistically unlikely. But organisations should try and form common ground with Hebrew's- develop productive Commonwealth's generally- whilst maintaining integrity.

Complexity is a problem- a lot more than most of us consider. Fences reduce the need for complex and costly territorial display. The infighting caused by western communism will lead to a world complexity crisis- but the communists don't care for poor they hate powerful proficiency (Nietzsche).

To make things even more complex Hebrew's have a significant relationship with wokeism and communism and the development of the US and more broadly in the 20th Century through various figures (Freud, Bernays (Father of Consumerism), Marcuse (Father of the New Left), other Hebrew Psychologists, Hollywood, Hebrew's tend to vote Democrat, Saul Alinsky, Marx (Father of Communism), Trotsky, etc).
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 4 January 2024 10:10:39 AM
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Hebrew's have occupied a surprising number of powerful positions in US institutions and movements given their "context"- obviously there is a reason- perhaps influenced by advertised victimhood (justifying evil by squaring the ledger with victimhood). Some rich people cry poor too.

You have to ask the question are Hebrew's playing both sides of the political divide to benefit Hebrew's rather than the ideology in question? Or are Hebrew's just innocently acting according to their individual interests according to the wonderful diversity of the Hebrew diaspora?

There is a difference between Israeli victimhood and US Hebrew victimhood. I don't think mhaze with the greatest of respect has read The Protocol's of the Elders of Zion- it's a pretty boring read from memory- but I don't remember it containing baby stealing in abundance, except in reference perhaps to their stealing western futures. Though I suspect that many propaganda documents of the period contain similar references. I remember the "German 'King Kong'" from US WWI propaganda- no one seems to object to that.

"Christianity has played a large part in the hatred of Jews"- Some principles of Christianity favour Hebrew's some oppose Hebrew's. All cultures need exclusive territory to survive- those that deny that commit genocide- most animals demonstrate territorial behavior- but certain groups in the modern era deny it in their quest for power.

Just because Hebrew's may be "always the victim" doesn't mean that the Hebrew's have acted rightly or wrongly in the current Israel/ Gaza situation.

In a sense Hebrew's are closer to a Western context than other parts of the Middle East.
Posted by Canem Malum, Thursday, 4 January 2024 10:13:16 AM
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Josephus,

Back posting utter garbage yet again. Well you do have a captive little audience who gobble this stuff up without questioning it I suppose.

It never happened.

It is just another piece of the disinformation flotsam kicking around places like Instagram for the utter brainless like yourself.

Even Reddit's r/Israel removed it recognising it as rubbish.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Israel/comments/18vwud6/hamas_steal_gaza_food/

I won't bother telling you to grow up because we both know that isn't going to happen, but there is far higher quality disinformation you could be posting than this. Do us a favour and put even just a little more effort in on the next one.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Thursday, 4 January 2024 10:38:40 AM
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