Good news: Elma Avraham is still in ICU and very weak, but she can now talk slowly and recognises her family.

It was revealed that the hostages were given the psychiatric drug Clonex before their release, to make them look happy.

Other hostages were also given psychotic drugs before being filmed in Hamas propaganda.

The Hamas militants themselves, before going for the attack on October 7th, received the amphetamine Captagon to suppress their conscience: http://www.businesstoday.in/latest/world/story/hamas-operatives-were-reportedly-high-on-poor-mans-cocaine-know-all-about-the-synthetic-drug-captagon-402858-2023-10-21

Yuyutsu,

I wasn't trying to defend Israel or your nebulous 'Messianic movement' with my comment about Israel always winning. Merely stating an historic fact.

Sure Israel loses battles and suffers horrendous losses but they always ultimately win the wars be it 1948, 67, 73. They have to. The first war they lose will be the last war they lose, because it would result in the barbarity unleashed on 7/10 being unleashed from the river to the sea.

Good Morning Yuyutsu,

You're more than welcome to my well wishes and prayers.
There are so many people in Israel - who tell us
what's happening on the ground there. It is a very
bad situation and I feel for you and your family. We
on this forum appreciate the information that you provide
to us. Its gives us all a ray of hope. So Thank You for
keeping us informed.

I'm still hoping that international organizations will be
able to come in and influence the end result. Peace has been
a long time coming. Too long. In a place that is Holy to so
many.

Grim details disclosed at a conference about sexual and other violence Hamas inflicted during its October 7 pogrom deserves global outrage. As the Israel Defence Forces close in on Khan Younis in southern Gaza where Yahya Sinwar, the leader believed to be the architect of the massacre, reportedly is hiding, the revelations reinforce the importance of Israel’s drive to destroy Hamas.

Witnesses told of terrorists slicing off a Jewish woman’s breasts and playing with them like footballs while the attackers took turns to rape her. The last man shot her in the head. Such realities must be faced by those claiming Israel’s response to October 7 is heavy-handed and disproportionate.

At the UN conference Hear Our Voices, organised by Israel’s mission to the world body, a religious worker who dealt with the remains of those slaughtered spoke of the “systematic genital mutilation of women” she found. Women had been “deliberately shot in the crotch or in the breast”, she said. Some bodies had been “beheaded or had limbs cut off”. One young woman’s body had both legs cut off. “We saw several severed heads, one with a large kitchen knife still embedded in the neck … some bodies were burned beyond recognition.” One young woman’s arm had been “broken in so many places it was difficult for us to lay her arm on the burial shroud. Her leg, too.” Others had been shot in the eyes, the face and the skull.

However unpalatable such details may be, it needs to be highlighted, especially for the benefit of naive pro-Palestinian demonstrators chanting “from the river to the sea”. Silence on such war crimes, as US businesswoman and philanthropist Sheryl Sandberg told the conference, would be unthinkable. “To do so would be to undo decades of progress. Do we believe the Hamas claims that rape is forbidden … or do we believe the women whose bodies tell us how they spent the last moments of their lives?”

“The first step in assessing Israel’s actions is the recognition it is fighting an existential battle. What would Australia do in an equivalent situation?”

Shadow Minister,

How many deaths will it take to be enough?

What else could be done for this killing to stop?

Is killing each other the only answer? Or should
sharing the land be considered - as equal citizens side by side?

If neither side is willing to compromise - how long can this
current action be allowed to continue. Can Hamas really be wiped
out? Or will another movement take its place?

So many questions - no easy answers.

Hi Foxy,

Be careful engaging with this anonymous deluded poster who likes to go into graphic detail about "perversions", particularly of a sexual nature. A professional friend in the field of mental illness tells me this type of sicko gets a certain gratification from retelling (reliving) these fantasists of theirs. The more horrific they make them, then the greater their gratification.