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The Forum > General Discussion > For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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We need to be less selective about the reality we accept.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 9 December 2023 9:07:28 AM
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The great warmonger United States has vetoed a United Nations Security Council resolution calling for an immediate humanitarian cease-fire in Gaza. Even that other great warmongering nation Britain didn't vote against it. This veto by the US condemns thousands more women and children to their deaths in Gaza. So far Israel is responsible for murdering 7,000 children and 4,000 women in Gaza.

mhaze from the footage I saw, those men didn't appear particularly overweight, then again you are biased. As for their fate, you claim they are "removed to POW camps", where are they? I believe those that are not summarily executed will be held in desert concentration camps for later disposal.

There are Zionist Death Squads operating in Gaza, like the Nazi's Death Squads operated in Eastern Europe during WWII, dealing with fighting age men first, then the women, children and older non combatants second. The parallels between the actions of the Zionists towards the Palestinians, and the Nazi's towards Jews is strikingly similar. The only thing the Zionist haven't developed yet is gas chambers for efficient extermination. But give em' time. This Nazi behaviour today towards a hated people of yours (Muslims) is right up your ally, right mhaze.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 9 December 2023 2:58:26 PM
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Paul,

You understand so little...

" This veto by the US condemns thousands more women and children to their deaths in Gaza"

Veto or not, the war would have continued. Israel knows the UN is hostile to it and would have ignored any resolution. BTW Britain abstained, but nice slight-of-hand.

" I believe those that are not summarily executed will be held in desert concentration camps for later disposal."

Quite the fantasy land you live in. If Israel was planning on summary execution they wouldn't have photo'd and filmed them and then distributed it world-wide.

"from the footage I saw, those men didn't appear particularly overweight,"

Well they certainly weren't short of a meal. As I predicted..."[it] will be completely ignored by those who like to deceive themselves into thinking they're non-partisan".
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 9 December 2023 3:14:43 PM
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mhaze,

13 in favour of the resolution, 1 abstention one warmonger against, the warmongering US then used it veto power.

Even Jordan an ally of Israel, is condemning its actions in Gaza. What is your explanation for the 7,000 murdered children and 4,000 murdered women so far? Were they all Hamas terrorists? I say its part of the Zionist aim to exterminate all Palestinians. Overwhelming world opinion calls it "collective punishment". What do you have to say about that member of the Israeli government (Religious Zionist Party) who says; "Palestine no longer exists, only Israel, and Israel is only for Israelis."

"Well they certainly weren't short of a meal" are you a dietitian?

"those who like to deceive themselves into thinking they're non-partisan" You are partisan, I condemned the murderous outrages by Hamas 7th Oct against innocent Israelis. Just as I now condemn the murderous actions of Zionists against innocent Palestinians. Please justify all those dead Palestinian women and children! I call it a war crime, you with your extremism see it as a necessary cleansing of one of your hated groups (Muslims) in this world.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 9 December 2023 5:50:52 PM
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"Veto or not, the war would have continued. Israel knows the UN is hostile to it and would have ignored any resolution."

How wonderful mhaze has a crystal ball, he knows what will come. If United States condemns the genocidal actions of Israel, after all don't kid yourself this is as much an American war, as it is a Israeli war, America is not a disinterested party with no influence. What is conveyed to Israel from the "Washington Bunker" is as important as what Netanyahu tells his generals.

"Israel knows the UN is hostile to it" yes, the UN is somewhat peeved with Israel, after all the Zionists are killing every UN worker they can lay their hands on. More UN workers killed in this war than any previous war. Why is that, are UN workers in their blue vests Hamas terrorist as well. BTW another Hamas terrorist in a red suit, driving a flying slay pulled by magic reindeer's will be passing over Gaza on the 25th, another terrorist for Israel to shoot down! mhaze now you've learnt Christ wasn't crucified at Christmas, maybe you can celebrate the death of Santa instead.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 10 December 2023 7:33:00 AM
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Dear Paul,

I agree with Mhaze that "Veto or not, the war would have continued."

This has nothing to do with the United-Nations, like them or not: Israel has no choice but to continue this war and end the Hamas, it cannot afford otherwise even if it has no friend left, even if the whole world joins the fight against it. Israel is fighting for its own survival - I am not sure whether it can win, but if it loses and has no more hope, then be sure that it will not leave the scene quietly but amidst a spectacular firework of at least 400 nuclear bombs!

On the other hand, perhaps Israel may be better off without a veto, with America joining its condemnation, so that Israel is no longer harassed by the likes of yourself who use it to vent their anger of America.
After all, see for example the UN condemnation of Myanmar's Junta, http://www.hrw.org/news/2022/12/21/un-security-council-historic-censure-myanmar-junta - has anything happened to them since? Have they finally been removed? When have you last commented about the plight of the Myanmar civilians?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 10 December 2023 8:39:47 AM
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