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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.

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Literally on the same day I post a link showing the Israelis giving evidence to the UN of the atrocities on 7/10, Paul claims the joos are withholding such evidence. Struth.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 8 December 2023 6:45:37 AM
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mhaze,

This is what's in your article; "The United Nations has heard accounts of sexual violence during the 7 October attacks by Hamas, in a (organised in part by former Meta executive Sheryl Sandberg) meeting where speakers also attacked women’s rights activists and UN officials for not doing more to investigate or condemn these crimes."

Now a formal request by the UN for Israel to provided all the evidence it has of atrocities, some of which likely happened, despite denials by Hamas. BTW you say; "Israelis giving evidence to the UN of the atrocities on 7/10," No they gave "accounts" not "evidence" obviously Israel should have photographic, independent eyewitness accounts, perpetrators confessions, victims accounts etc etc, so a successful prosecution of war criminals can be undertaken, BTW that can be applied to both sides. Some believe Poland started WWII based on the NAZI "evidence", are you one such believer?
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 8 December 2023 7:29:37 AM
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The UN took close on two months to even acknowledge the atrocities of 7/10. In the meantime, they've been riding shotgun for Hamas, constantly admonishing Israel to surrender its war aims. They've been denying that hospitals were used by Hamas. They hide the fact that most aid ends benefiting Hamas rather than the Gazans. It now seems that at least one of their employees held one of the captives.

Israel views the UN as completely biased against it, and with good reason.

So the UN ignores the atrocities of 7/10 and then when finally forced to acknowledge them, suddenly require Israel to hand over all the forensic evidence. This despite the fact that they could have, had they been truly interested, been taking part in the forensic evidence gathering as a few nations have been.

The UN is not a disinterested party here, and there is no ay Israel will allow these Hamas supporters to do the investigation. Now if you want to parlay that into your belief that 7/10 barbarism didn't happen, despite all the video evidence that's already been released, well that'd be a very Paulian stance - if you don't want it to be true then it isn't.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 8 December 2023 11:04:13 AM
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Village idiot,

There is plenty of evidence of the rape, murder and torture of innocent women and children by Hamas. However, the chances of the UN ever prosecuting Hamas are zero as they never have before and Israel has a good record of serving justice to Nazis PLO terrorists and others.

As for Alan Jones, he is not accused of molesting children as the senior greens were and he has initiated defamation proceedings against the SMH which could bankrupt them.
Posted by shadowminister, Friday, 8 December 2023 12:35:11 PM
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Disturbing footage of Zionist Death Squads, something I raised shortly after Oct 7th, rounding up hundreds of Palestinian men stripped of clothing, bound and made kneel, and then taken to unnamed locations, in the deserts for "interrogation". Stop the war, and stop the war crimes from both sides.

I also seen on TV a member of the Israeli parliament from the Religious Zionist Party (Tkuma) declaring in an interview that Palestine no longer existed, there is only Israel, and Israel is only for Israelis! He wouldn't be drawn on what kind of "final solution" he envisaged for the millions of Palestinians. I doubt he had a pleasant solution in mind.
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 9 December 2023 6:43:52 AM
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A bunch of Hamas soldiers decide martyrdom isn't for them and surrender to Israeli troops. Given their proclivity for hiding bombs in their person, the Israelis force them to strip down to their undies to make sure they are not a danger. They are then removed to POW camps and further interrogation.

Paul, who likes to deceive himself into thinking he's non-partisan, says their captors are "Zionist Death Squads" (note the capitals to try to make it more authoritative!!). Most people would need some minor level of proof for this....but not our Paul.

One interesting point from viewing these brave Gazan men is that they are, almost to a man, overweight and obviously well fed. But but but....we've been told that the blockade is cutting of food supplies and the people are starving. As Harry Hoo used to say..."Two possibility"....(1)the stories about the lack of food were made up by the UN agencies (2) there were shortages but Hamas' brave fighters were hoarding supplies for themselves. Either way, not a good look and therefore will be completely ignored by those who like to deceive themselves into thinking they're non-partisan
Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 9 December 2023 8:12:07 AM
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