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For Hamas the business model is Gazans' misery.
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Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 5:33:18 AM
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"Israel has conducted itself lawfully, in accordance with the law and morality of war. The only immediate path to some just resolution of the tragedy unfolding in Gaza is for the Hamas leadership to return all hostages to Israel, resign leadership of Gaza and hand over the perpetrators and plotters of the October 7 atrocities to stand trial for crimes against humanity.
Any human being feels compassion for the suffering of innocent people in Gaza. The moral responsibility for this lies 100 per cent with Hamas, which is a proscribed terrorist organisation, but also a kind of death cult, a committed and longstanding leader of anti-Semitic hatred and a totalitarian ruler of its own people. Therefore, those who care about Palestinians in Gaza should urge those with moral responsibility for the suffering, and the power to end it, to do so. That’s Hamas." Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 6:04:48 AM
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Shadow Minister,
http://globalr2p.org/countries/israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/ "Before you embark on a journey of revenge dig two graves. One for your enemy and one for yourself." (Confucius.) Wise man Confucius. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 6:11:04 AM
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Ah, all these dead babies.
Well I guess SR is completely on board with Hamas surrendering tout de suite to bring all the death to an end. Because the alternative is that lamenting the deaths of the babies is just a virtual signalling device to use against the evil joos. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 7:58:35 AM
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AC quoted "The foundational events of the Nakba took place during and shortly after the 1948 Palestine war, ...."
A war you say? Oh so something happened BEFORE the events of the so-called Nakba. I wonder what that something was and why AC demurred mentioning them. Oh lookie here, the events were a war launched by the Arabs against the newly formed state of Israel following the UN-agreed partition of the mandate of Palestine. So the UN backs a partition. The Jews agree and set up the State of Israel...the Arabs refuse to accept the UN vote and invade the mandate with the intention of wiping out all Jews from the river to the sea. And the Arabs lose. No surprise there...the Arabs always lose to the Jews. So following the victory, Israel proceeds to clear out the enemy so as to protect the new State of Israel. And this is the time according to AC the conflict started. Not the Arab rejection of the UN vote. Not the Arab invasion. Not the attempts to create a second holocaust. No, say, AC. Let's pretend none of that happened and instead just look at the aftermath of the invasion. And he calls this adhering to the facts. Dill. But this always happens. The Arabs launch invasions, intifadas, rocket barrages and so forth over and over with the aim of wiping out all Jews from the river to the sea. And the Arab cheer-squad, cheers. Then the Jews fight back and the Arab cheer-squad cries foul. Then the Jews win and the Arab cheer-squad demand they stop winning. And then the Jews make changes 'on the ground' to try to improve their defensibility and the Arab cheer-squad demand that all things go back to the status quo ante bellum and try to pretend that the problems were all caused by the evil joos. Rinse and repeat. AC thinks (probably honestly) that he's following the history. In fact he's following the Arab propaganda. Posted by mhaze, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 8:34:46 AM
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An interesting article from "The New Statesman,"
an opinion piece by Slavok Zizek - covers the topic of "Who is to blame?" Benjamin Netanyahu, Gaza, Hamas, Israel - are the subjects covered. http://newstatesman.com/ideas/2023/10/israel-palestine-blame Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 10:55:02 AM
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Thid might help:
Hindi Prayer for Peace:
Oh God, lead us from the unreal to the real
Oh God, lead us from darkness to light
Oh God, lead us from death to immortality, Shanti,
Shanti, Shanti unto all
Oh Lord God Almighty, may there be peace in celestial regions
May there be peace on earth
May the waters be appeasing
May herbs be wholesome and may trees and plants bring peace to all
May all beneficient beings bring peace to us
May thy Vedic Law propagate peace all through the world
May all things be a source of peace to us
And may they peace itself bestow peace on all
And may that peace come to me also.