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What is the Origin of the Palestinian People?
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Posted by Fester, Monday, 30 October 2023 7:18:46 PM
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Hi Fester,
"How is it that you were okay about Russia invading Ukraine..." - I have to say I didn't think Russia was actually going to invade when they did, I got that wrong; but I'd already been following the events in Ukraine on and off since the Maidan in 2014. Prior to that, I'd been following the war in Syria, in that conflict I supported Bashar Al Assad, I was against US policies of endless wars, and I particularly disliked the ideas of sanctions and overthrows. - So when I saw the US was overthrowing the democratically elected leader Viktor Yanukovych (Ukraine), I supported Russia. I saw Russia as being possibly the only nation that could put an end to US endless wars by neoconservatives, and they didn't support any of this woke crap, which was a bonus. And Russia eventually came to the aid of Assad, and stopped the US from expanding it's empire there. General Wesley Clark "We're going to take-out 7 countries in 5 years." http://youtu.be/6Knt3rKTqCk For the US empire, there is only 'conquered' and 'yet to conquer'. 'democracy' means 'conquered' and 'authoritarian' means 'yet to conquer'. Israel is often described as the United States 'unsinkable aircraft carrier in the middle east'. It's how they keep Arab nations divided and project power into the region. Biden once said 'If Israel didn't exist, we'd have to create it'. Why did we go to Iraq, War on Terror, Arab Spring? - It was all just a exercise in the US attempting to 'expand their empire'. You see if they controlled M/E oil, they would control the world. My support for the Palestinians is an issue of defence of human rights, I've been critical of Israel because of this, but also I don't like Zionism, and I don't like the aims and goals of Judaism as it applies to non-Jews. I see Palestinians as having a legitimate right to take up arms against an occupying state, but I don't support them attacking or killing innocent non-combatants. NATO was expanding the US empire up to Russias borders and risking WWIII Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 30 October 2023 9:11:44 PM
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Imagine if the Palestinians used the resources they use for causing perpetual mayhem against Israel, to better themselves & start living now for the future instead of always fighting about the past ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 30 October 2023 9:47:51 PM
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Yuyutsu; just a quick one; The Arab Islamic armies invaded
Mesopotamian towards the end of the 6th century after the death of Muhammad. I have the info here on who was the commander. I'll add it on to morrow, time for bed, night ! Posted by Bezza, Monday, 30 October 2023 10:00:22 PM
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Dear Bezza,
«The Arab Islamic armies invaded Mesopotamian towards the end of the 6th century after the death of Muhammad.» Arab armies, that's quite possible and normal, but not Islamic because there was no Islam at the time yet. The Hadith of course could claim many things in order to forge a historical connection between Muhammad and their book, the Koran, but why should we believe it? Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 30 October 2023 10:47:11 PM
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Putin and the Ukraine?
Putin justifies his invasion of Ukraine because he claims that Ukrainians, Belarussians and Russians are "one people." That's his excuse for the invasion. He wants to restore the former Soviet Empire. With him as its Tsar. He is denying the existence of Ukrainians as a people. He did not expect the Ukrainians to fight back. Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 9:43:45 AM
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How do you reflect on your own view of immigrants in light of the hatred of Palestinians toward Jews being based on an anti-immigration sentiment?
Hi AC,
How is it that you were okay about Russia invading Ukraine based on your belief that Ukraine was murdering Russians and needed to be de-nazified and demilitarised, yet you object to Israel's action against Hamas after it sent 2000 rockets into Israel, killed 1400 Jews and took 200 Jews hostage on October 7?