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What is the Origin of the Palestinian People?

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Be fair ttbn. I am sure that they were only following orders.
Posted by Fester, Monday, 30 October 2023 7:50:59 AM
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Here's a little factoid some people here should pay attention to.

The 'No' voters won the recent Voice referendum.
The 'Yes' voters lost, they are the minority;
- They should accept it and stop carrying on.

In comparison...
There was another recent 'referendum'

The 'Yes' voters won the referendum.
The 'No' voters lost, they are the minority;
- They should accept it and stop carrying on.

What was this referendum?

UN General Assembly adopts Gaza resolution calling for immediate and sustained ‘humanitarian truce’
http://news.un.org/en/story/2023/10/1142847

>>The United Nations General Assembly on Friday adopted a resolution calling for an “immediate, durable and sustained humanitarian truce” between Israeli forces and Hamas militants in Gaza. It also demands “continuous, sufficient and unhindered” provision of lifesaving supplies and services for civilians trapped inside the enclave, as news reports suggest Israel has expanded ground operations and intensified its bombing campaign.<<

120 votes in favour, 14 against and 45 abstentions.

Israel and the US do NOT support a ceasefile, nor do they support the unhindered provision of lifesaving supplies and services for civilians. THEY SUPPORT GENOCIDE.

FACT: The people who support Israels continued bombardment of Gaza and the resultant deaths of non-combatants ARE THE MINORITY, and they are supporting genocide, and supporting actions that risk Jewish blood on our streets.

- I'm not saying they shouldn't support Israel or that they don't have a right to their own preference, or voice their own opinions and beliefs, NO.

I'm just saying that you should all know that your are the minority opinion on this, and the rest of the world is getting peed off.
- Like it or not, that's the reality.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 30 October 2023 8:50:07 AM
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"What is the Origin of the Palestinian People?"

Whilst that is an important question Foxy
- There's another one which is equally important.

What is the Origin of the Israel / Palestinian Conflict?
- There's no chance of resolving the conflict properly until those questions are answered.

Imagine a long running fued with a family relative every Christmas that went on for 15 years.
- There no end to the conflict until they sort out their differences.

And Netanyahu created this situation - by giving tacit support to Hamas to divide the opinions of Palestinian people in negotiations for Palestinian statehood.

He oppose negotiations that would lead to Palestinian statehood and he argues they won't negotiate with Hamas, leaving the issue unresolved an ongoing while Palestinians suffer and whilst at the same time being supportive of continued settlement building.

If anyone's to blame for things reaching this point, it's Benjamin Netanyahu himself.

A Brief History of the Netanyahu-Hamas Alliance
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000
'For 14 years, Netanyahu's policy was to keep Hamas in power; the pogrom of October 7, 2023, helps the Israeli prime minister preserve his own rule'
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 30 October 2023 9:04:03 AM
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The UN vote tells us how country leaders think. It tells us nothing about what people think. Claiming therefore that those who oppose the resolution are in the minority is rather dubious. There is no way to know the truth of that.

The UN and those who support it would be on much firmer ground if they got around to addressing Hamas' barbarity and proposing ways to stop it, rather than just expecting Israel to live with the occasional massacre.

"THEY SUPPORT GENOCIDE."
So do you.... http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=22424#390115
Posted by mhaze, Monday, 30 October 2023 9:09:45 AM
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The word "Semitic" people is an obsolete term for
an ethnic, cultural or racist group. It now is
largely used outside the groupings for Semitic
languages in Linguistics such as Hebrew, Arabic,
Syriac, and so on.

The origins of Palestinians, we're told are complex
and diverse. The region was not originally Arab.

It's Arabization was a consequence of the gradual
inclusion of Palestine within the rapidly expanding
Islamic Caliphates established by Arabian tribes and
the local allies. Like in other "Arabized" Arab nations
the Arab identity of Palestinians is largely based
on linguistic and cultural affiliation and is
independent of the existence of any actual Arabian
origins.

During the 2nd millenium BCE, it was inhabited by the
Canaanites, Semitic speaking peoples who practiced the
Canaanite religion. Palestinians share a strong genetic
link to the ancient Canaanites. The Israelites emerged
later as a separate ethnic religious group in the region.

There's more at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians#:

Palestine has undergone many demographic
religious upheavals throughout history.
Jews eventually formed the majority of
the population in Palestine during classical antiquity.
However, the Jewish population in Jerusalem and its
surroundings in Judea never fully recovered as a result of
the Jewish Roman Wars.

In the centuries that followed the region experienced
political and economic unrest, mass conversions to
Christianity and subsequent Christianization of the Roman
Empire and the religious persecution of minorities.

The immigration of Christians as well as the conversion
of pagans, Jews and Samaritans, contributed a Christian
majority forming in late Roman and Byzantine times - Palestine.

This region has a fascinating history.

It's worth knowing more - to better understand
just how special
this region is, and why it deserves all of our support
to see its continued preservation.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 30 October 2023 9:25:33 AM
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The vile anti-Semitic, anti-Israel demonstrations by Palestinians all over the Western world is a cause for embarrassment to the West; or it would be if Western culture had not been already been made to look pathetic by its own suicidal multiculturalism policies.

The rubbish demonstrating in Australian capital cities are not Australians. They might have signed up to citizenship to get the dole, Medicare and all the freebies, and to vote for Green Labor. Some might have been born here; but they will never be Australians. It is an established fact that the first generation Australian-born-of-immigrants are often more fanatical and dangerous than the immigrants themselves.

Multiculturalism has been white-anting Australia since the moronic Malcolm Fraser kicked it off 60 years ago. I still remember the horrid announcement of it on ABC radio - the naive idea that people could be both Australian and whatever they were where they came from.

It's been all downhill since then: despite the "successful multicultural country" nonsense spoken by people too stupid to recognise reality, or just too pigheaded to admit how absurd and dangerous the maniacal policy was in the first place. Australia was successful the way it was before the lunatics took over, with its limited and non-racial discriminatory immigration policy. Multiracialism can work; multiculturalism - never.

Like us, Israel is still a democratic country deserving of our support against barbarians. Any Australian who does not believe that, and wants the same deal for Israel's enemies is an anti-Semite, no matter how much they pretend that it is 'Israel, not the Jews'.

Bulls-t. Israel is under siege all the time, and brutally attacked regularly by Islamic terrorists only because of its Jewishness. Forget the 'territory' excuse. It's straight out hatred of Jews. And, this latest conflict is showing that there is a lot of that hatred in Australia and other Western countries.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 30 October 2023 9:30:17 AM
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