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That sinking feeling

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"The Ukrainian long-range missiles have just taken out the high command of the black sea fleet."

Keep dreaming SM,

Ukraine's not going to take one inch of land back scaring the Russians with pinprick attacks.
They've been trying that unsuccessfully on women and kids in Donetsk City for 9 years.
- Also the building was empty, Crimea's full of underground tunnels and bunkers.

Also it looks just as likely they are putting the squeeze on others ahead of winter rather than suffering any kind of serious shortage themselves.

http://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/22/russias-indefinite-ban-on-fuel-exports-could-worsen-a-global-shortage.html

>>“The middle distillate market was already seeing significant strength ahead of this ban with inventories tight in the US, Europe and Asia as we head into the Northern Hemisphere winter,” Patterson said, citing factors such as OPEC+ production cuts, recovering air travel and Europe’s struggle to replace Russian middle distillates after a ban came into effect in February.

“The loss of around [1 million barrels per day] of Russian diesel in the global market will be felt and only reinforces the supportive view we have held on middle distillate cracks and as a result on refinery margins,” he added. “How much upside really depends on the duration of the ban.”<<
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 25 September 2023 10:19:59 AM
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Baldrick,

So I suppose the dozen or so ambulances there along with rescue teams were there for the show? Russia has now lost nearly as many generals as it did in WW2.

Russia's ban on diesel exports is because Russia wasn't producing enough to supply its own market:

"Russia in recent months has suffered shortages of gasoline and diesel. Wholesale fuel prices have spiked, although retail prices are capped to try to curb them in line with official inflation.

The crunch has been especially painful in some parts of Russia's southern breadbasket, where fuel is crucial for gathering the harvest. A serious crisis could be awkward for the Kremlin as a presidential election looms in March."

Similarly, Russia's reduction in oil output is because it can't sell it. Not only are China and India buying from other sources, but shipping countries are reluctant to risk their tankers in the black sea.

These pinprick attacks have destroyed much of the black sea navy, most of Russia's modern tanks and about half of its artillery. The use of cluster munitions is killing 100s of Russian soldiers every day.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 25 September 2023 10:57:38 AM
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SM

Probably not a good idea to invoke Hitler when Ukraine is referred to as the Fourth Reich. It's not just Putin who calls them Fascists; they helped Hitler in the SS and in concentration camps during WW11.

Who is "just sad"? Me, or the invasion of Ukraine by Russia; which I'm not "happy" about, but which I understand in view of the NATO provocation .

Is there a poll indicating that 65% of Australians support our country's support of Ukraine?

About 70% of Russians themselves still support the war - understandably down a little because of the Russian losses.

I hate war. But this one has nothing to do with Australia. And we should not be helping anyone, in my opinion.

I don't understand your interest in a conflict between countries we have very little to do with. Do you have personal reasons?
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 25 September 2023 11:28:16 AM
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ttbn,

I see that you have been drinking Putin's Kool-Aid there is far more resemblance between Putin and Hitler than Zylenski.

Prior to WW2 Lenin and Stalin deliberately starved millions of Ukrainians and deported millions to gulags so when a minor resistance group joined the Germans to fight Stalin it was more about Stalin's brutality than sympathy with fascism. This was 80 years ago and with almost zero nazi sympathizers in Ukraine and a popularly elected Jewish PM, this was simply a bullsh1t excuse by Putin along with Ukrainians being devil worshippers etc.

The destruction of the Russian army is about the most just use of arms in modern history. Russia now has the second most powerful army in Ukraine and already is far less of a threat to its neighbours than ever before.

Russia is losing this war.

There was never any justification for Putin to invade Ukraine other than he thought he could get away with it.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 25 September 2023 12:40:31 PM
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SM

Whatever. I've lost interest. You stick with it. I'm sure that your persistence will bring things to an end. I can't see why you haven't got Russia out of Ukraine already. I'm not on the Koolaid, but you must be into some good stuff.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 25 September 2023 1:40:12 PM
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I am into the good stuff, it's called fact-checking.

You should try it.
Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 25 September 2023 2:54:00 PM
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