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That sinking feeling

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"Ukraine kicked the Russians out of Kharkiv and Kherson."

Ukraine never kicked anyone out of anywhere.
Except Robotyne maybe, what good that was.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 2 November 2023 4:15:58 AM
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Baldrick,

You seem to be suffering from dementia. In July 2022 Russia occupied much of Kharkiv Oblast and Kherson city. At the end of 2022, Russia bravely ran away donating nearly 500 tanks to Ukraine and leaving 1000s of rotting Russians.

Russia is losing this war.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 2 November 2023 5:08:40 AM
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No I don't have dementia,
Maybe you have Ukrainian delusions of grandeur.

Russians withdrew, Ukrainians merely took up abandoned Russian positions.

And that was why the Ukrainians counteroffensive was a complete failure.
The Ukrainian and western plan envisaged Russians running away.
Weren't they fighting with shovels?
Running out of missiles everyday?

There is no possibility that Ukraine can take back it's territory.
There is no possibility that Ukraine can win the war.
You live in fantasy land SM, as delusional as a 'Yes' voter.

Ukraine can have all the weapons on the planet and it won't help them now,
They don't have the troop numbers to use them.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 2 November 2023 5:23:01 AM
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Maidan snipers: Recent findings in a lengthy case have cast doubt on the very roots of the current Ukraine crisis
http://www.rt.com/russia/586192-maidan-snipers-ukraine-kiev/

>>The rich detail of Katchanovski’s findings cannot be reproduced here, but three points should be noted: Snipers belonging to the insurgents’ side started shooting at the police on the morning of February 20; key positions, such as in the Hotel Ukraina and a conservatory, from which these policemen were attacked and later Maidan protesters as well, were and remained under the control of insurgent units (not the police); and after 9.00 am, protesters, too, were shot by insurgent snipers (again: not by the police).

In sum, two things happened, according to Katchanovski’s findings: Insurgent snipers first shot at the police to provoke an escalation, and then, in addition, even killed protesters – that is, those on their own side. At the same time, Katchanovski does not rule out the possibility that the police also shot protesters. But his careful analysis of video and other evidence shows that many victims, likely the majority, were targeted by insurgent shooters.

Katchanovski has come to these conclusions through years-long, rigorous, and exhaustive forensic research, as summarized in his peer-reviewed article “The ‘Snipers’ Massacre’ on the Maidan in Ukraine” in Cogent Social Sciences, an academic journal published by Taylor and Francis. He has not been the only one reaching such or similar results, but his work is the most thorough and important independent investigation.<<

The 'snipers massacre' on the Maidan in Ukraine
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23311886.2023.2269685

Maidan snipers & Ukrainian proxies w/ Ivan Katchanovski
http://youtu.be/E56IVQY_Sx4
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 2 November 2023 2:40:42 PM
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US-made F-16s will survive just a few weeks in Ukraine – Moscow
http://www.rt.com/russia/586346-shoigu-ukraine-f16-fleet/
'Russian air defenses are proving highly successful at downing Ukrainian planes, Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu said'

>>Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu claimed on Wednesday that the entire fleet of F-16 warplanes pledged to Kiev by Western donors could be destroyed in less than three weeks. He based his claim on the high rate of success shown by Russian air defenses in shooting down Ukrainian military aircraft last month.

Speaking at a ministerial meeting, Shoigu praised Russian forces for conducting over 1,400 successful intercepts in October. He said the figure included 37 Ukrainian planes, almost twice the number of F-16s that foreign nations intended to give to Kiev.

“If our air defense forces work this way, [the F16 fleet] amounts to roughly 20 days of work,” he predicted.<
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 2 November 2023 2:42:30 PM
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http://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1719367722721775935
Azov commander Dmitro Kukharchuk talks about how Ukraine is strategically losing the war.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 2 November 2023 3:11:31 PM
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