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PLAN B

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So, what happens if the Voice referendum fails ? Is that the end of the story – or is there a Plan B ?

The obvious Plan B would seem to be the constitution of a lobby to do what the Voice was supposed to do – but without the constitutional amendment.

This possibility was evoked by Laura Murphy-Oates of the Guardian with Talei Elu ( a Saibai Koedal (crocodile) woman from the Torres Strait Islander community of Seisia in Cape York, and 2023 Qld Young Australian of the year).

Here is the brief interview :

http://youtu.be/jd06CcGGxyI
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And here are a few more opinions on what will happen if the Voice referendum fails :

http://youtu.be/mMxagldPHqY
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I must say I can’t help feeling that these reactions are not very realistic. The young First Nations people interviewed all seem to think the Voice is a lot more than a hobby – albeit an official one enshrined in the constitution. I don’t.

I would line up with all the supermarket chains, the big oil companies, the Australian Christian Lobby and the thousands of others – and get what I wanted.

That’s the name of the game : lobbying. That's what works.

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Steele,

You can't help yourself with the ad hominems can you? After months of sulking because I responded in kind to your vitriol you are back to your old nasty ways.

As neither I nor any of my ancestry have abused or robbed any Aboriginals in any way I feel zero white guilt. In spite of your sycophantic grovelling towards the local indigenous you are a hypocrite and a dyed-in-the-wool racist against the indigenous population in Israel.

As for the indigenous people being "gracious" their representatives such as Lidia Thorpe appear entitled, avaricious, and mendacious. It doesn't help that their bloodline is mostly European which makes their protestations appear completely bogus.

As for the "voice" itself, the planned question is so vague that the voice could vary between being innocuous as a lobby group or as pernicious as a veto at every level of government in every state. Vague platitudes from a PM that is yet to keep a promise do not cut it.

Good Morning Folks,

This is an ongoing interesting discussion.

Yes, we've had attacks - yes some have been nasty.
But heck - it shows at least to me, that people
do care about this matter and do have strong feelings
about it - which I don't think is a bad thing all
round. I think most Aussies do want to do the right
thing. And I feel certain that they will in this case.

Yes, there is uncertainty for some, a risk for others.
However, I personally feel people will vote according
to their beliefs and values. And hopefully it will
all work out.

I wish you all to do what your heart tells you.
You're all decent people after all. If you weren't - you
would not care and argue as much as you have and do,

Today in Melbourne the weather's a bit bleak -
but I'm going to be doing what I usually do
to cheer myself up - I'm going to cook up a
storm - with some traditional dishes from
gran's old recipes.

It's going to be a good day.

I hope.

I hope the rest of you enjoy yours as well.

shadowminister,

I will admit my intention was to put Josephus instead of you in that comment but the shoe is a pretty close fit especially as you have run out the veto line yet again.

"pernicious as a veto at every level of government in every state."

I have little issue with the indigenous people of Israel both Jewish and otherwise, it is the European colonists who have done the damage in that blighted country.

But it is interesting that you have no problems with Jewish birth right into Israel even with a skerrick of mitochondrial DNA, yet are far more prescriptive of who constitutes an Aboriginal.

Racism in spades when you unpack all that.

I live in Australia
And there's much that
I can tell ya
It's a vast brown land
Full of odd regalia

A land the Brits discovered
And made their very own
Discounting its First Peoples
Who called it their home

My folks came as refugees
They did as they were told
And, like so many others
Were allowed into the fold

What happened to the natives?
That's something we weren't taught
How much they really suffered
With what their lives were fraught

The time has come for us to vote
Whether the natives can have a say
YES or NO we must decide
Or tell them again to go away

We can correct our past mistakes
And try to do just what it takes
The old ways we can replace
If we want a country we can all
embrace.