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The treaty at the heart of Uluru.
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Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 6 August 2023 7:48:12 PM
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Foxy,
The aboriginal word for a treaty is Makarrata. Albozo is the one trying to pull the wool over the voters. "A new poll shows the No vote for the Voice is ahead 56-44 per cent nationally, now leading in every state and territory, suggesting the referendum is on track for defeat." According to some this "voice" is unsalvagable and the question now is whether labor will waste about $300m to run a referendum. Posted by shadowminister, Monday, 7 August 2023 6:04:57 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,
The Prime Minister intends to keep his election promise. Lets not deal in hypotheticals." We've had polls wrong in the past as you well know. In any case the Opposition Leader and his Deputy were both invited to the Garma Festival. They refused to attend. They could have discussed what problems they saw. It was a missed opportunity. If their NO campaign succeeds and the Referendum fails this would represent repudiation and would kill off the closing of the gap in education, health, housing, and so many other problems for the First Nations people. It would also be a disaster for the Liberal Party. They would have to account for their actions as to why they were against something that would be governed by legislation. And why saying they were prepared to listen to Indigenous Australians - but then not listen to the very first point in the form of recognition they want. http://theconversation.com/why-cant-we-just-establish-the-voice-to-parliament-through-legislation-a-constitutional-law-expert-explains-203652# Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 9:20:52 AM
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A NO majority in all states now.
Posted by ttbn, Monday, 7 August 2023 9:28:59 AM
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The Indigenous Voice to Parliament is far from lost.
Don't believe - Sky News, Rowan Dean, et al, News Corp, or ANY of the Murdoch media and its supporters. According to The Australian Financial Review polling shows that a quarter of voters are undecided and could be wooed by a short, sharp campaign. Third Party polling by The Australian Financial Review as well as research conducted by Federal Labor and YES23 campaign - all come to the same conclusion - the outcome is still too hard to predict. Fingers-crossed that's true. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 9:49:10 AM
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Just to jog some memories:
1993 - was the "unlosable" election for the Libs. And 2019 - for Labor. This highlights how voter opinions can shift to produce a result few would have predicted in the polls. Posted by Foxy, Monday, 7 August 2023 10:03:28 AM
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The Constitution is about governance and nothing else. As such, the term ‘constitutional recognition’ implies a distinct place in our governance, whether or not it is in a preamble or a chapter in the main body. So, nobody should be recognised in the Constitution, and certainly not Aborigines. The Constitution is an important part of our Westminster system and beliefs , to which Aboriginal culture and tradition have contributed nothing at all.
The likes of Tony Abbott and other 'conservative' types trying to trade the Voice for recognition is a pathetic attempt to show that they are not bad people for rejecting the Voice.
No Voice. No recognition.