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The Forum > General Discussion > The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

The treaty at the heart of Uluru.

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Josephus

Try ADH TV. live and/or available on demand. I've recommended it before. This is the last time. If you want to keep watching the ABC and complaining about it, as so many people do, fair enough; but stop complaining. The ABC is not going anywhere. I, and an increasing number of viewers, have made the move away.
Posted by ttbn, Sunday, 27 August 2023 12:27:11 PM
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Thanks, ttbn, I carefully choose what I watch on ABC, SBS, and NITV, I choose other sources for my information as fact.

Steele, please answer how the Voice will solve these problems, you seem to know.
" Australia has not been able to improve the social disadvantage of its Indigenous population. The existing measures are clearly insufficient as evidenced by the lack of progress in achieving the ‘Close the Gap’ targets."

It is my experience until they move into our society and values, and abandon their primitive culture of smoke, dust, and bush flies and bush food, their situation will never improve. Western culture began to throw this culture off 700,000 years ago.

Those that have done so and made it in our culture do not need a Voice as they have overcome the disadvantage.
Posted by Josephus, Sunday, 27 August 2023 1:41:21 PM
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Dear SteeleRedux,

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Thanks for those links. Yes, I was aware of our waltz hesitation on subscribing to UNDRIP and the criticisms of the UN Special Rapporteur, our support probably having being motivated more by the perspective of obtaining a seat on the UN Human Rights Council than any real desire to improve our woeful Human Rights record.

In my view, the Albanese government would have every reason to fully respect the UNDRIP articles I mentioned when seeking to implement whatever alternative solution (plan B) our First Nations peoples decide to pursue.

It's not just a question of saving face, it's a question of the honour of our nation.

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Sunday, 27 August 2023 9:50:15 PM
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Struth mate, get real for once.
Steeleredux,
That applies to yourself much more plus some integrity would also help !
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 27 August 2023 9:52:26 PM
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1939 Louis Jordan - Keep A-Knockin’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0SQ-zD2XnU

It's real simple, just vote NO.
Why would you vote yes to something that isn't in your best interests.

As for the UN, I wish we could vote NO to them as well.
I wish I could vote NO to the two major parties
Stuff the 400,000 per year immigration
Stuff the gender and ethnicity quotas
Stuff the 'Welcome to country' permanent guilt trip
Stuff the critical race theory, wokeness, divisiveness and all the rest of it.

Close the borders, restore the rule of law
Stop giving out of control kids that run the streets breaking into houses with machetes a slap on the wrist and a free pass to keep going out and doing the same thing again.
Why wouldn't they run the streets not caring about anything when they have no future in this country.
How are they going to get a million dollars to buy a house in this great big country of ours.

They're not leaders, they're branch managers for the UN and globalism.
They don't have our countries best interests
They don't care about culture, they want to destroy cultures to impose their own global citizen culture.

The Yes campaign haven't proven their case, just appealed to bleeding hearts with peer pressure to go against their own interests.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Monday, 28 August 2023 4:17:51 AM
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Dear Indyvidual,

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The referendum asks us to reply to a single question :

A Proposed Law: to alter the Constitution to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice.

Do you approve this proposed alteration?

YES or NO ?

Today, you wrote :

No-one I know, not even the No voters are against the referendum … No-one I know is against recognising the Aborigines as the original inhabitants of this land …

Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 27 August 2023 7:22:23 AM
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That statement seems contradictory to me, Indyvidual.
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Most, if not all, your comments on this thread plead for a NO vote :

1. Only combined effort based on integrity rather than racist blathering can make this happen ! The Voice was not designed with effort in mind, only with blame !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 6:21:45 AM

2. All this Voice will achieve is giving corrupt people immunity at the taxpayers' expense …
The gullible will support that no matter what !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 9 August 2023 6:15:29 PM

3. There is no veto power
SteeleRedux,
Famous last words !
Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 12 August 2023 7:13:59 AM

4. The Voice has zilch to do with social, economic or humanitarian issues, it's about power to satisfy the unwarranted hatred of pseudo indigenous activists !
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 9:13:54 AM

5. I can't see any reference to how the Voice will deal with the racist activists in its ranks ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Tuesday, 15 August 2023 12:55:37 PM

6. When the Voice makes a clear point of individual effort & responsibility requirement for all then I'd consider giving some support but not as things are at present … in my book enshrining activist mentality in the Constitution is ill advised & definitely wrong !
Posted by Indyvidual, Thursday, 17 August 2023 6:19:37 AM

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(Continued …)

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Posted by Banjo Paterson, Monday, 28 August 2023 8:02:35 AM
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