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The Nays have it.
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Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 July 2023 11:01:03 AM
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"The following link clearly explains what the Voice is, where it came from, and what can it achieve:"
But nowhere does it or any other apologia explain why it needs to be in the constitution or more precisely what are the differences between a federally legislated Voice and a federally legislated Voice with constitutional backing. That's not explained. That's never explained. Why? Because explaining it would leave the referendum dead in the water. Posted by mhaze, Saturday, 1 July 2023 12:02:53 PM
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Someone said Rumpelstiltskin one too many times and now she's back- protect your first born. At least Loudmouth's hairy ar** isn't coming back.
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=21262#375213 Posted by Canem Malum, Saturday, 1 July 2023 12:43:37 PM
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" In 1967 we were counted. In 2017 we seek to be heard."
Uluru Statement From the Heart. May 2017. Danny Gilbert writing for the Australian Financial Review points out why we need an Indigenous "voice to the Parliament." It can be read at the following: http://afr.com/opinion/why-we-need-an-indigenous-voice-to-the-parliament-20180530-h10qgf He tells us that: "There are two standout reasons why constitutional recognition must occur. The first is to give Indigenous people a real say in how the nation engages with them. The second is to correct the barefaced wrongs of the 1901 Constitution and the short comings of the 1967 Referendum." Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 July 2023 1:47:20 PM
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Danny Gilbert explains that:
"The Uluru Statement is a rejection of symbolism and a call by grassroots voices for meaningful and respectful engagement. This will require strong bipartisan leadership. We must understand how Indigenous Australians see our history. We must recognise the reality that Indigenous Australians are unique as the descendents of people who have lived here for 65,000 years. Until 1788 it was their country. They have suffered collateral damage of nation building like no others." "Our first people have cultures and languages precious to our nation. They have interests in vast tracks of our country. The commonwealth needs the constitutional power to protect and advance their interests. Indigenous people should be accorded the respect of a constitutionally enshrined voice as Parliament discharges this uniquely important facet of Australian nationhood." "I want this to happen because it is the right thing to do for Indigenous Australians and I want it for me - a non-Indigenous Australian." This should not be a political issue. But a moral one. To do the right thing. Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 1 July 2023 1:58:31 PM
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because it is the right thing to do
for Indigenous Australians Foxy, How certain are you about that ? The ones who push it aren't representing the indigenous, they're representing the political power they can get by pretending to be in the interest of the indigenous ! Why haven't these pushers done anything thus far with all the possible help & aid available ? If you were to check on the heritage of most of the pushers you more than likely would end up anywhere but Australia ! Posted by Indyvidual, Saturday, 1 July 2023 2:39:27 PM
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http://theconversation.com/the-voice-what-is-it-where-did-it-come-from-and-what-can-it-achieve-202138