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The Forum > General Discussion > The Nays have it.

The Nays have it.

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No all of them. Some follow the party's dictates.
Others lie through their teeth.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 3:59:14 PM
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The Constitutional Law Experts though - have to tell the truth.
Their reputations are at stake.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 25 July 2023 4:11:14 PM
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The debate is coming down to one side, the YES campaign, relying on honesty and integrity with their argument in favour of The Voice, whilst the NO campaign are resorting to lies and misinformation to hood-wink good people into voting their way.

We seen it with the Gay Marriage debate now the same mob are peddling lies about The Voice to parliament. Unfortunately this time they may well win out.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 4:30:25 AM
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Paul, the NO case, sees the proposal and those behind the Yes case in the same position. Deception and lies and cover up of the real agenda. You just follow the party line in the belief to introduce the overthrow of colonialism.

None of those supporting the Uluru statement need the Voice as they are among the average Australian, from professors, politicians, and high profile half caste of mixed heritage.
Posted by Josephus, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 9:52:04 AM
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Dear Paul,

I had the biggest blow-up with my younger brother yesterday.
He rang me (it was my birthday) and after a while began raving
on about how our Victorian Premier - Dan Andrews should be
hanged for cancelling the Commonwealth Games. Then my brother
got onto the YES Voice to Parliament - and asked me if I watched
Sky News? And how much respect he had for the commentators there.
And much more.

Finally when he began spouting how the ABC is totally under the
thumb of the Labor Party - I hung up on him.

My brother. I couldn't believe it.

Anyway, later that evening he rang up and apologized for upsetting
me which I thought was very decent of him. I rang him back this
morning and we talked for a while.

Politics can be controversial. Especially - this YES Voice to
Parliament which has a lot of people riled up.

My brother has always lived and worked in regional Australia.
He's lived amongst Aboriginal people. He's a teacher and was
a school principal before he retired. Today - he's part of the
"grey nomads" and is travelling with his wife around the
country - while they still can.

I love him dearly - and he's always been a great guy.

I was truly shocked to hear his political views.

I won't be discussing things with him any more.

In any case - it will be the Australian people who decide the
outcome of the Voice.

I've got my fingers crossed that the result will be positive
and that not many think like my brother does.
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 9:56:05 AM
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Dear Foxy,

You should not condemn your brother for holding different opinions to you. The fact that you think your brother a good person might suggest that being a good person is not dependent on holding a particular opinion on one subject or another.
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 26 July 2023 8:18:00 PM
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