"Are we done?"

Not even close.

First, as an aside, let me point out that AFTER you made your claims that the US caused the Uighur to engage in civil unrest, you then went looking for evidence. That's not the process I'd recommend to my grandkids. Normally I'd recommend gathering the evidence and then reach a conclusion, not reach a conclusion and then look for confirmatory evidence. Just a thought.

So what have you found? Well you found that the US has been funnelling some funds to the Uighurs to help in their fight against genocide. From that you, without the slightest bit of evidence, decided that the Uighurs were ALL being bribed by the US to sully the name of that wonderful CCP.

So let's look at this unevidenced leap of logic (for want of a better word). There are some Uighurs now in the west who regularly report on the genocide. Its possible that they might be open to saying what's required to get their 30 pieces of silver. No evidence, but not beyond the realms of possibility.

But then we have a report from the Newlines Institute for Strategy and Policy think tank which took evidence from "[t]housands of eyewitness testimonies from Uyghur exiles". Thousands? Wow that yankee bribe money must be spread pretty thin, eh? So now we have to believe that 1000s are lying to get bribed.
Oh, and the same report looked at 1000s of leaked "official Chinese government documents". Let's pretend that didn't happen?

Oh and this was just one report. There are others (I linked to one above) which also took lots of eye-witness testimony. Must have been all on the yankee payroll, I'm sure </sarc>.

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Oh and then there are leaked Chinese government records which "reveal how Chinese Communist party (CCP) leaders including Mr Xi and Premier Li Keqiang made statements which directly led to policies affecting the Uyghurs and other Muslims.These include forced internments, mass sterilisations, forced assimilation, "re-education", and coercion of detained Uyghurs to work in factories."

Its hard to see how that was orchestrated by the wily yanks so we'll just pretend they don't exist. Oh wait, there were two separate leaks. Let's pretend harder, eh?

We've seen from your attitude to the current war on the Eurasian steppes that your first, second and only conclusion is to blame the US. Its something I see a lot here and in other similar groups. But unfortunately, as regards the Han extermination of their western conquered peoples, you'll struggle to find a way to credibly blame the US. Not that that'll change your mind.

mhaze,
The US does exactly the same stuff in other countries as it does there.
The purpose is to drive a wedge and cause civil unrest, you know how I know that?

Because in the Ukraine (The most corrupt country in Europe) they backed the Neo-Nazis to drive the wedge...
(Do you see them reporting about corruption in the Ukraine? Hell no you don't)

Just as they supported the Mujahudeen, Contras, ISIS (to overthrow Assad) and Pol Pot...
- And hundreds of other dangerous groups and individuals to gain power, wherever they operate.
You think it's all about human rights?
- You'd be an idiot if you were actually that naive.

I'll tell you something abut your article from the New York Post:
Here's your author / journalist: Gulchehra Hoja
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulchehra_Hoja
Read her wikipedia, you might learn something.
1. She works for Radio Free Asia, an organisation funded by the US government
2. She hasn't lived in China for 22 years;
And here's the doozy...
3. Whilst the article was written last week, the events she's talking about happened over 5 years ago.
"Three days later on January 31, (2018) twenty-five members of Hoja's family were summoned to local police stations in Xinjiang and detained due to their connection with Hoja.

AND FURTHER, PRIOR TO THIS EVENT
"In 2017 Hoja was accused of being a terrorist by the Chinese government and placed on the Most Wanted list."

AND THEN THIS TO TOP IT ALL OFF
"In April 2021, videos were released of Hoja's mother and brother in which they claim to be leading normal lives and criticize Hoja's reporting."
(Hoja believes this to be forced testimony.)

- Here you were saying there's no evidence of foreign influence.
You don't spend 37 million dollars on 5th column operations in China for nothing.

You bought into a well crafted and manipulative story that was designed to play on your emotions to sell you a bill of goods you wanted to hear, that confirmed your already existing bias.
- There may be some truth to it, but that's about all we can know.

Tell me do you want to go to war with China for this?
- Because that's what they're trying to sell you.

SM,

When we were making a comparison between China and India, I did say that under Chinese Communism, the average person there came out on top economically when compared to the average Indian under Capitalism. Now how does that make me ; "a bit of a shill for the Chinese communists"

'Shill' is the wrong word, its meaning doesn't fit what you are trying to convey.

mhaze,

I read your link detailing the personal account of Gulchehra Hoja and the treatment of his family by the police, although a dramatic account I don't doubt its not essentially true. As I read it I could see uncanny similarities with Australia's treatment of Aboriginal people, summary arrest, hoods over heads, denied medical treatment etc. While the world is rightly investigating China over human right abuse, they should also be investing Australia over our abuse of Aboriginals. Do you agree?

America thrives on war, otherwise its economic stagnation, and the loss of trillions of dollars for American Capitalism, nothing gives greater impetus to the American economy than war, that is an undeniable fact. AC asked the question;

Tell me do you want to go to war with China for this?

What, over our newest and dearest friends, the Ukrainians and Uyghurs (can someone gives us the correct spelling)! No one will go to war to save the Ukrainians, much less the Ugehurs, not even the Americans. BUT, they will go to war to boost the American economy, and the 'Useful Idiots' like many Australians will dutifully fall into line as us suckers have done since WWII.

Again AC, you have no evidence that the facts around the genocide in Xinjiang are being manipulated by the US. No evidence. All you have is information that some US money is going toward helping those suffering the genocide, information that you pass through your its'-always-america's-fault filter and , hey presto, the whole thing is a vast US plot. Who needs evidence, when they just know.

But what I found amusing, AC, is that, after I'd shown evidence from actual hacked Chinese government data and facetiously commented that we'll need to try hard to ignore it, you did indeed ignore it.

When my kids were growing up I had this book for them called "All the Flowers are Red". the basic premise was about someone who asserted there were only red flowers. Each page had pictures of different coloured flowers with one red flower intermixed - a where's Wally type thing. It taught colours. The protagonist only ever noticed the red flowers and continued to assert that all flowers are red. But it also taught that, if you ignore all the evidence, then your prejudices will be confirmed. In the book, the protagonist finally comes to recognise other colours.

I wonder if you'll recognise the analogy?