Pauliar,

After admitting that China has 350 000 000 people in poverty you want to know why India fell behind. It's simple:

India had poorly run socialism while China for the last 40 years had rampant capitalism which raised the living standards.

In Taiwan the Chinese there had a capitalist system with some social benefits and rapidly improved far better than similar people under the CCP.

This is what you as a shill need to address. Answers please!!

shonky,

"India had poorly run socialism" is that why they failed to deliver pensions, food, clothing, shelter, education, health care etc etc things socialism would provide to 1.1 billion people, poorly run socialism tends to do that, not deliver. Now your're claiming China has "rampant capitalism", before you claimed they were communists, so what's it to be capitalists or communists. That "rampant capitalist" Xi should jump into bed with your folk hero Trump!

Australia is also a poorly run communist state, so we called it a liberal/democracy, that's just another euphemism for a "poorly run communist state." Shonky you're a Honky! But good value for a laugh, never the less!

BTW; The official US government census in 2021 put their poverty level at 11.6% or about 38 million people. For the worlds richest country rampant capitalism is not doing too well there. Maybe its because they are total warmongers, spending about $2 trillion a year on militarism. The Chinese are spend about $230 billion, that's around 1/8th of America, they must be peace loving people to spend so little, what do you think of that?

BBTW; Chinese manufacturing is going gang busters again, you said they were in for a total collapse. Another one of your super brain predictions gone wrong. I don't need to remind you of your 'Cry Baby' Porter prediction, now do I.

Pauliar,

More lies I see. I am uncertain as to whether you are pretending to be stupid.

China has been run by the communist party for 74 years. The first 3 decades of actual communism led to almost universal poverty and the mass starvation of 50 000 000 people. The last 4 decades after the CCP opened the economy to capitalism saw massive growth but with the vast majority of the wealth going to communist party members. Now the economy is closer to the fascist model.

India was ruled by the Indian National Congress from 1952 to 1977 and was centre left /socialist with the low growth rates typical of socialism.

"Nehru embraced secularism, socialistic economic practices based on state-driven industrialisation, and a non-aligned and non-confrontational foreign policy that became typical of the modern Congress Party"

Also:

China's manufacturing sector has improved off a low base during zero covid, but no one is claiming that it is going gangbusters.

"China's local government debt had already been rising dramatically for a decade before the pandemic, largely the result of a state-led investment boom in the wake of the 2008 global financial crisis. But the situation has deteriorated rapidly in the last three years.
Last year, local government debt jumped 15% to 35 trillion yuan ($5.2 trillion), according to data released by the Ministry of Finance on Sunday. Interest payments on local government bonds exceeded one trillion yuan ($148 billion) for the first time in history, according to state media.
Debt that is backed by local governments but which doesn't show up on their balance sheets could be much bigger.
The "hidden debt" issued by local government financial vehicles, entities created to circumvent borrowing restrictions and used to channel funding for infrastructure spending, might have totaled 65 trillion yuan ($9.6 trillion) by the middle of 2022, according to a recent estimate by analysts at Mars Macro, an economic research firm based in Hunan.
That's more than 20% higher than the estimate of 53 trillion yuan made by Goldman Sachs in 2021."

shonky

I am not a Maoist, and never have been. China under Mao failed to rise to its potential, and many people suffered and died because of Maoism. You put a figure of 50 million on it, that number could have been even greater. Capitalism in American caused 5 million direct deaths through slavery and another 50 million indirectly through deprivation of African Americans for another 100 years. Both are historical examples of excesses caused by ideology and exploration gone wrong.

I have shown that your claim that INDIA is in someway today superior economically than CHINA, which is an absurdity. You based that claim on your rabid ideological belief that 'Unfettered Capitalism" such as in India, will always Trump what can best be described as 'Ordered Socialism' as practised in China.

Pauliar,

You made the comparison between India and China not me. However, it was still the Chinese communist party that killed 50 million of its own citizens that slowly and agonizingly starved to death. Nothing in India even vaguely compares with this.

As for the deaths in the US that you quote, it sounds like complete bullsh1t to me. Provide proof or just be called a LIAR again.

The comparison is between China and Taiwan which leaves China in the dirt.

Shonky,

You rake up the Chinese province of Taiwan as your new get out to try and remove your head from the noose you put it in when claiming India has a superior economic outcome in regards to poverty than China.

Very little similarity between Taiwan with its population of 24 million and area of 36,000 Km2, and mainland China with a population of 1,400 million and a land mass of 9.6 million km2. Other than the fact they are both in Asia, and in close proximity to each other with a mostly ethnic Chinese population comparison is chalk and cheese.

As for Taiwan, I support self determination for the Taiwanese people, a free and prosperous people independent of outside influence. Unfortunately that would be impossible given America would use an independent Taiwan to threaten the security of mainland China, as they have done with South Korea and Japan.

BTW, don't you understand 'POVERTY KILLS', wherever it is, in India, China, America even in Australia today, there are those who die from the effects of poverty. As for deaths of African Americans because of poverty, see if you can find the documentary 'Slavery America', I have a copy and it traces the economic impact on Black America from the end of the American Civil War to the actual ending of slavery in 1942. True 'Freedom' is still an illusion for the vast majority of African Americans. Why aren't you protesting their plight in the richest country on earth. Just like you really don't give a sh!t about anyone whose not like YOU