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Putin Talks of Negotiation over Ukraine,

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Dear Critic,

The Russian people are known as strong and tough, but I cannot tell what it is about them which makes them so weak and helpless when it comes to defending their freedoms, why they allow themselves to be ruled by one tyrant after another, century after century.

Now you seem to suggest that the Jews did it to them, are you?
Not their drinking habits by chance?
Well perhaps the Russian bicycle-riders are at fault?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 1:29:27 PM
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Hey Yuyutsu,
"The Russian people are known as strong and tough, but I cannot tell what it is about them which makes them so weak and helpless when it comes to defending their freedoms, why they allow themselves to be ruled by one tyrant after another, century after century."

Putin has a much higher approval rating than any leader of a western country enjoys, why is that?
It stands to reason there must be more to this that others fail to comprehend right?

"Now you seem to suggest that the Jews did it to them, are you?"

Bolsheviks / Mensheviks what do I know I wasn't there, I was born in the 1970's
- I can only go by what I read
Is there some stated point there that you dispute?
Did drunk Russian bicycle riders fund the Bolshevik revolution?
I dunno, if you do then feel free to explain.

- Maybe you think I did it, in some previous life
You seem to be making it about me now.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 2:08:01 PM
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Yes, everyone wants peace, but on what terms?

The idea of the war in Donbas starting because of Russian language speakers being persecuted looks a bit improbable in a country where 80% of the written and spoken language is Russian.

http://www.oecd.org/ukraine-hub/policy-responses/disinformation-and-russia-s-war-of-aggression-against-ukraine-37186bde/

It is unlikely that the conflict in Ukraine will be resolved other than by military force. Drone attacks on Russian air bases are a sign that Russian guided missiles are in short supply, and Russia is suffering losses of well over 10,000 killed or wounded per week. As one Russian woman observed, "There are no enemies, there are only victims in a war"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1V90z8C-r8
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 2:13:15 PM
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If Jews did fund Trotsky and the murder of the Russian Royal family Nicholas II of Russia after his abdication, and held a large amount of political influence in the initial formation of the USSR, why throw a tantrum about it, just own it and accept your horrible history.

- In the same way white Australians need to be reminded of our own horrible history every 26 January by people calling us 'colonisers' on 'Invasion Day'.

Execution of the Romanov family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_of_the_Romanov_family

Leon Trotsky
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky

Really, what's the big deal?
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 2:25:13 PM
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"If Jews did fund Trotsky and the murder of the Russian Royal family..."

Hi AC,

Which Jews? Were/are they a secret organisation like the mythical Elders of Zion that Hitler and his ilk believed in? Are there similar organisations like "the Australians", "the Africans", "the Americans", "the Aborigines","the Ukrainians", "the Russians", "the Catholics"...? Am I a part of the organisation because I am an Australian citizen?

Like Putin and his chums, Hitler and his chums were about rape and pillage on a national scale. Like Putin, the narrative was the justification.
Posted by Fester, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 2:49:17 PM
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Perhaps this might help:

http://bbc.com/news/world-europe-56720589
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 2:55:59 PM
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