You are taking Pericles out of context. He's not anti-Christian.

Steven, after all that I think that you are just trying to justify to yourself why you can be a bully to a particular group of people based on their religion. Thats just sad.

Lucy wrote:

"...you are just trying to justify to yourself why you can be a bully to a particular group of people based on their religion."

LOL

It's the religious folk who are the bullies and the RRT places an almighty club in their hands.

The way I see it is that Muslims from all parts of the world are tired of the ignorant imams who put their own spin on the Kopran to suit their masters and to exercise their growing authority that owes nothing to ther religion. Any educated Muslim and especially theose with a scientific background seek freedom from the restrictive practices in their homelands and flee to Uurope,USA, New Zealand and Australia. The unfortunate part of the wave of "asylum" seekers are hordes of "sleepers" who come with them. Their poison infects some of the disaffected who may have been born in the UK or USA and persuade them to raise their hands against the home land, unfortunately. Eventually this will die down after an attritional phase.
We shall yet see the new Islam emerge from the lands of promise outside the conservative Saudi Arabia, Yemen,Pakistan,Iran, and countries like them. The spirituality of the world will be considerably enriched in the years ahead. Maybe the dead world of capitalism and postmodernism's pessimism will benefit from an emerging fresh breath of a new spirituality.

I would like some viewws on this p o v,please.

socratease

Thank you Lucy Montgomery. But Philip Tang is fully aware of that already.

>>You are taking Pericles out of context. He's not anti-Christian.<<

But it is part of his schtick to pretend otherwise, as he does here....

>>Its OK Pericles to be a Christian basher and/or an apologist for Islam.<<

As I have made clear so many, many times before, Philip Tang, I am neither a basher of, nor an apologist for, any religion.

It is the mindless mozzie-baiting that I object to. If there were mindless christian-baiting, I would object to that equally.

My reference to Srebrenica was merely to point out that no religion has a monopoly on terrorism. As, of course, you knew very well. But again, you like to pretend otherwise.

It is a pity that you cannot even be true to yourself.

Glorfindel has the same problem.

>>Pericles: I am not corroding Western society<<

Constant, drip-feed hate-mongering is corrosive, Glorfindel. To the hate-mongerer, where it destroys any capacity for compassion and tolerance. And to the target, who ultimately use it as proof that they are being victimised, and react accordingly.

And these are simply symptoms of your own corrosion, Glorfindel.

>>[Western society's] postmodernist nihilism, cynicism and relativism<<

As opposed of course, to your own archaic, blind absolutism.

>>Islam wants not to share but to BE the world.<<

That's the paranoia coming out.

All of your fear and loathing stems from that one overriding terror, doesn't it. Which in turn justifies your personal religious war against Muslims.

>>It wants huge social and even formal legal power over the individual<<

You just made that up. Admit it.

Sure, Islamic countries allow religion to dictate some laws. Just as Christian countries do. But it stops at the border.

It's sad, really.

Your religion, Glorfindel, preaches love-thy-neighbour tolerance (or at least used to, when I was at school), yet you are so flat-out intolerant.

Why is that?

Pericles and Lucy,

The both of you are thoroughly confused. Mixed up about what’s going on in the world today.

How are you to explain the Muslims burning churches in Indonesia, Malaysia, Egypt and Nigeria?

Many Coptic Christians are killed in Egypt. This has nothing to do with the USA or the West.

Did India send troops to kill the Iraqis? Why did 10 Muslim jihadis went on a rampage killing about 120 people in Mumbai (Hindu), India?

In south Thailand more than 3000 Buddhists have been killed by Muslim terrorists.

Pericles, Christians are called to “love thy neighbour”, but not to appease an evil ideology like Islam. There is a big difference between the two; if you’re not blind you’ll see the obvious difference.

The following video shows how in Islamic education Muslims as young as 3 years old are indoctrinated into believing that Jews and Christians are apes and monkeys. They show cartoons glorifying suicide bombing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJweh5MO9wg&NR=1

Islam is definitely not a religion but teaches the Muslims to hate non-Muslims at a very young age.

Lucy, may I know your view on Islam, is it a purely a religion?

Is it any wonder that Mohd. Mahathir thinks 9/11 was staged by the US to attack Muslims? http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/1/21/nation/5516554&sec=nation
Probably the Jews did it eh, Pericles?

Philip Tang, I don't consider myself at all confused.

>>How are you to explain the Muslims burning churches in Indonesia, Malaysia, Egypt and Nigeria?<<

Terrorism. It happens. Sometimes between religions, Hindu vs Muslim. Sometimes within the "same" religion, Catholic vs Protestant, Shia vs Sunni.

You might detect a theme there.

>>Many Coptic Christians are killed in Egypt. This has nothing to do with the USA or the West.<<

Many civilians are being killed in Iraq and in Afghanistan. This has everything to do with the USA or the West.

What's your point? That only Muslims are or ever have been religious terrorists? I don't think so. Was the Northern Ireland conflict resolved by one religion winning and one losing? No. Both sides realized they needed peace in order to survive.

>>Pericles, Christians are called to “love thy neighbour”, but not to appease an evil ideology like Islam.<<

That's useful. Qualified love. "Oh, you should love your neighbour, except of course for the ones you don't like".

>>Probably the Jews did it [9/11] eh, Pericles?<<

Better you ask Arjay or daggett about that one, Philip Tang. I'm pretty sure they will be able to find an appropriately Jewish conspiracy for you.