No Pericles, I don't think Glorfindel gets it.

Or maybe he does, and is desperately trying to hide his rank hypocrisy behind silly grammatical pedanticism.

Glorfindel, WHOM, didn't like the truth of endless religious inspired slaughter, It must of really pissed your religious delusions off? I have seen the religious have a petty pathetic bitch but that took the cake? Tell me why do you Christian religious cult members wait until the first Sunday after the (Nth hemisphere) spring equinox following full moon to celebrate the pagan festival you call easter? And why is almost every religious festival and new year of every culture celebrated on a full or new moon, this really is the basis of all religions, pagan astrotheologic worship of the Sun and the zodiac? You do realize that if you change the words God, Jesus, Lord or light in the bible to "SUN" you will get the real meaning and proper wording of the ancient allegories from which they was plagiarized before your Jesus Christ was invented by Paul of Tarsus?
Holy Bible, Helios Byblos "Sun Book"!

Dear Lucy,

China is a Marxist country, not a Buddhist country.

I'm leaving this forum and let the Islamist apologists continue brawling. They have to truly ask themselves, would they like to live in an Islamic country? If not, they are hypocrites and better keep their peace.

Don't quite understand what HFR is on about.

Bye, Philip Tang.

>>I'm leaving this forum and let the Islamist apologists continue brawling.<<

See you the next time you choose to display your bigotry on this forum. As you undoubtedly will.

>>They have to truly ask themselves, would they like to live in an Islamic country? If not, they are hypocrites and better keep their peace.<<

This is the part that you "truly" don't understand, y'know.

I choose to live in this country for the simple reason that it is a significant supporter of free speech and thought. I specifically choose not to live in one of the strongly ideological Islamic countries, where free speech and thought are both curtailed.

But the hypocrisy is all yours, old chap.

It is you who would like to turn this country into a nation of anti-Islamists, with your incessant chorus of "they're evil, they're evil", and observations like "Islam is a mental disease, a boil on the bum of humanity".

In doing so, you want to turn us into a mirror-image of those countries that you profess to despise - the ones that outlaw religions that are not their own.

How does that make sense?

On the one hand, you complain that we as a nation are tolerant of other religions, and wish us to become intolerant.

On the other, you complain that Islamic countries are intolerant of other religions, and wish them to become more tolerant.

How is that not hypocrisy?

"On the other, you complain that Islamic countries are intolerant of other religions, and wish them to become more tolerant."

Let's make it simple for Mohammad Pericles.

Assuming a Christian/Buddhist/Hindu etc. country, X, closed down all the mosques in the country. Country X would only allow a mosque to be built only if a church/temple/temple etc is allowed to be built in Saudi Arabia. I am advocating fairplay.

As it is, Islamic countries would put to death any Muslim that leaves Islam or make it very difficult for Muslims to leave Islam.

Pericles, I am sure you are aware of what's going on in the Islamic world and the harm Islam does to Muslims and Islamic countries.

What you are advocating is not tolerance but suicide of secular democracy; it can be clearly seen to be coming from one with a demented mentality, not able to differentiate good from evil.

However, if you are a Muslim or having some kind of a relation with Islam I do not blame you for the position you take.

Goodbye Pericles, see you at some other forum

Philip Tang: Thank you for your excellent posts and links. I also won't be posting more on this thread, but I hope you will stay on OLO, if not this thread.

A-propos of you-know-who, I think I'll fall back on two quotes from George Bernard Shaw:

“Silence is the most perfect expression of scorn.” - Ecrasia, in Back to Methuselah (1921)

“Dogmatic toleration is nonsense: I would no more tolerate the teaching of Calvinism [read Islam] to children if I had power to persecute it than the British Raj tolerated suttee in India. Every civilized authority must draw a line between the tolerable and the intolerable.” - “Biographers’ Blunders Corrected,” Sixteen Self Sketches, Constable (1949).

Oh - and I'm not a Calvinist either!