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Beyond minarets: Europe’s growing problem with Islam : Comments

By Shada Islam, published 19/1/2010

Can one be both European and Muslim?

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Philip Tang after that insightful critique of the Muslims, would you care to share with us your thoughts on the Germans?
Posted by Lucy Montgomery, Saturday, 30 January 2010 11:00:01 PM
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In a paper delivered in Brisbane, BUDDHIST monk and Honorary Professor at Griffith University, Chin Kung, said:

*A good person is the product of good teaching.
* Confucianism and Mahayana Buddhism ... seek to change the world with compassion and universal love by transforming evil to good, enemies to friends.
* Chinese saints and sages taught that we should treat others with filial piety, love, loyalty, trust, compassion and love, and live in accordance with all with courtesy, honour, harmony and equality.
* When a member of a family does something wrong, the parents should reflect on how they failed. Have they been good role models for the others in the family? Have they taught the children properly?
* An ancient Chinese saying states that "When a person only cares for wealth and material needs, and cares not for the proper moral and virtuous education, he or she is closer to being a beast than a human being. ... A respected and efficient ruler is one who leads his people with the nourishment of proper education and teachings."
* There were four types of education in ancient China: family, formal, social, and religious education. Family education was the basis of all.
* To bring lasting peace and stability to a society, a nation, or the world, promotion of moral and virtuous education should be the top priority."

What a contrast between benign Buddhism and Christianity, and Islam!

In the video link provided by Phillip Tang, Wafa Sultan said:

"The language of Islam is negative (and) dead, replete with violence, anger, hatred and racism. If (a man’s) life is dominated by negative language, he will emerge as a negative, reckless and non-productive person.

"The negative language of Islam has failed to produce people with a spontaneous and positive outlook. It has produced negative people.

"When a faith manages to strip its believers of their last grain of compassion, it strips them of their spirituality as well.

"Islamic teachings have become dreadful in the skulls of Muslims. I see no alternative but to clean (out) the life-threatening cancerous cells in these brains."
Posted by Glorfindel, Saturday, 30 January 2010 11:18:51 PM
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So when China supports the governments of Sudan. Burma and Sri Lanka is that consistent with Buddhism? ie funding atrocities. What about when China invaded Vietnam in 1979? Were they just spreading the good word?

You can spin the facts anyway you want.
Posted by Lucy Montgomery, Sunday, 31 January 2010 10:55:23 AM
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I absolutely agree, Glorfindel

>>Twisting words of scripture to make a deliberately misleading point is dishonest, intellectually bankrupt, and worthy of no respect. As Shakespeare says, "The devil can cite scripture for his own purpose."<<

And I do wish you and your fellow Christian evangelists would stop doing it.

>>I am astounded how anyone can read the whole [Qur'an]... take out of context a single verse and purport it to be what it is not. Now why would someone want to do that? The only answer I can think of is that the person wishes to undermine and destroy [Islam].<<

Now do you get it?

Somehow, I doubt it very much.
Posted by Pericles, Sunday, 31 January 2010 2:50:31 PM
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Any religion is capable of atrocities thats why they were invented all the estimated 2500 of them, we cannot single out any one. Our high court ruled that charlatanism is the price we pay for religious belief and that if any religion was asked to prove their superstitious beliefs all would fail. Religion is charlatanism and all whom practice them are charlatans! Every megalomaniac despot in history has used religion to agitate the masses to slaughter the perceived enemies of Christ or Mohamed or Allah for the Islamic zealot etc etc. From the prehistoric to the holy roman empires "first Reich", through the religious dark age nonstop religious wars and inquisitions and pious witch hunts to the Nazi "third Reich" whom had Gott Mitt Uns "God With Us" on their belt buckles, religious writings just like the gun sights now on USA weapons (look them up along with second Reich). From Hitlers favorite biblical allegory, of Jesus throwing the Jews out of the temple with a whip, which he emulated by carrying a rhino hide bull whip to be like his hero Jesus. An allegory which he used to commit genocide on the Jews for Jesus. Hitler was pronounced the new Jesus Christ in 1937 by Reich minister for religion Hans Kerri,(look it up). Or if you prefer another Jesus quote, I have not come in peace but with a sword to turn father against son and mother against daughter etc etc.

And before the first brainwashed religious cult devotee babbles about communist dictators, these megalomaniacs simply started their own totalitarian religions where they are the unquestionable Gods. What is Kim Jon Il but the God of North Korea, these guys are as communist as last weeks TV guide. Seminarians like Stalin learn everything they know from studying in the priest hood, Mao, Pol Pot were catholic educated on pure old testament evil. Both Hitler and Stalin modeled their Gestapo and KGB on the catholic Jesuit order, it is said that no one knew or used religion better then them! The Islamic are simply the current religious killers?
Posted by HFR, Sunday, 31 January 2010 8:15:56 PM
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HFR

It's bad enough posting a silly diatribe which reveals historical ignorance and a mad rush to throw out baby with bathwater.

But for heaven's sake, don't keep using "whom" when you mean WHO. Didn't you do grammar at school? That is a really annoying, illiterate affectation. WHO is the subject of a clause. WHOM is the object of a verb or a preposition. Thus:

The boy who was there
The boy whom we saw ... (object of 'saw')
The boy who we thought was there (boy ... was there - subject of 'was')
The boy whom we thought to be there (as object of 'we thought')

etc etc !
Posted by Glorfindel, Monday, 1 February 2010 10:24:23 AM
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