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It is never the victim's fault : Comments

By Dannielle Miller, published 25/5/2009

Our blame-the-victim mentality is one of the main reasons many women do not report sexual assault.

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The discussion is about using any excuse to flog a tired old feminist world view to shore up a victim industry that puts bread on the table of hundreds of people.

You would have to be in fairyland to believe that women, young or not, are vulnerable, hot-house plants forever at risk of being 'violated' by men. Go out on Friday night and look, for every lad there is a ladette. Women are not behind in sexual experimentation and many find 'bad' boys an irresistible attraction for seduction.

The media's kid gloves coverage of Jodi Gordon stands in stark contrast to the treatment any man would have received in a similar circumstances.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25595454-10229,00.html

The spin for Jodi is calm, understanding and almost excusing, whereas a man would have been pilloried, with raucous demands for his immediate sacking for the disgusting offence to women, families and children. Feminists would be forced to rush into print and the feminist big guns would be thundering away demanding counselling and re-education of all screen personalities and removal of the 'monster's private bits as a warning to others. The speculative gossip mill would be running hotter than a steel foundry.

The careers of some of the greatest AFL players ever have been derailed for less, amid the raucous baying of feminists for more blood. However in Jodi's case the silence of the women's movement is completely expected and there would be no surprise if she was later cast as the victim of a spiked drink. Meanwhile, a cricketer has been sacked for not staying in his hotel at night while on tour and enjoying a legal drink. That is soooo different because he is a man. Whereas in Jodi's case, hey it is possible to spin a romantic story about being carried off by a modern day pirate, with Jodi as Elizabeth Swann and the bikie thug as Captain Jack Sparrow. What about the drugs or the odd behaviour resulting in the police raid? Shucks, minor details as is the bikie war that is raging over drugs and territory.
Posted by Cornflower, Sunday, 7 June 2009 5:32:45 PM
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"The discussion is about using any excuse to flog a tired old feminist world view to shore up a victim industry that puts bread on the table of hundreds of people.

You would have to be in fairyland to believe that women, young or not, are vulnerable, hot-house plants forever at risk of being 'violated' by men. Go out on Friday night and look, for every lad there is a ladette. Women are not behind in sexual experimentation and many find 'bad' boys an irresistible attraction for seduction." (Cornflour)
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What utter tosh!

Do I appear to be a hothouse plant forever at risk from...etc., Do ANY of the females who have had to cope with this incessant mantra rant appear to be pathetic weak little creatures living in fear?

Well...........? That alone makes a complete mockery of your ongoing piffle.

'Tired old feminist world'!! HA!! Seems to me there ain't nothing tired in the manner we 'hothouse plants' have in dealing with this dreary sameness.

And puuuulllease, there is ever DEcreasing fodder for 'seduction'. 'Irresistible' my foot! Look at the pickings on OLO.

Which is it Corns?, a 'Ladette' or a 'hothouse plant at risk'?

Taking a bob each way eh?

Too silly.
Posted by Ginx, Sunday, 7 June 2009 7:59:16 PM
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gunk:" "

Still nothing to report. Hothouse plants grow so well in old-cow manure too...
Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 7 June 2009 8:08:00 PM
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Antiseptic: I rather liked your fairy tale scenario. Very creative :)

Cornflower: Are you right in the head?

What the hell are you talking about re: an actress and the bikie?
You said if a man had been in that same situation feminists would be calling for his castration - what for? Plus there WAS a man in that same situation: two peeps used cocaine or summin and may have been hallucinating. What's unusual about that? Nobody is accused of anything so what does your completely unfounded, panicked ranting about feminism have to do with anything?

Seeker: "Feminism … you gotta love it." <- You bet. Learn more about it and these poor old OLO blokes will discover there is nothing to fear afterall. Sooks.

Ginx: <"Which is it Corns?, a 'Ladette' or a 'hothouse plant at risk'?"> Very astute as usual in picking the basic incoherence of conflicting ideas. Good one :)
Posted by Pynchme, Sunday, 7 June 2009 11:45:34 PM
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pynchme, thanks for the compliment. I hope to do a series of post-feminist fairy tale analyses. My feeling is that there is much of feminist thinking predicated on fairy tales.

pynchme:"Plus there WAS a man in that same situation: "

Except it wasn't the man who made the false report to the police, nor was the man even there when that false report took place as far as I can work out. As long as women are excused from responsibility for their actions in making false claims, this sort of thing will only become more common. Let's face it, if there had not been a CCTV camera available to show that nothing had occerred, this incident would have been reported as a violent attempted home invasion and the woman would have been all over TV for weeks. It is not trivial and she should be charged, just as a man would be.
Posted by Antiseptic, Monday, 8 June 2009 8:02:01 AM
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I'll be interested to read your fairy tale analysis - sounds like a very good project.

You must have missed these bits in the story:

"Putting on a brave face, Gordon turned up for work at the Home And Away set at Epping while Judge's lawyer Stephen Alexander fronted the cameras to state the pair had done nothing wrong when found cowering in Judge's unit by police."

(That seems to say that they were both found cowering in the unit.)
Gordon told officers she feared for her life after spotting the men on the CCTV cameras which surround the unit. But when told there was no such footage, she allegedly admitted to police cocaine had been consumed on that day.

Judge, who refused to be interviewed by police, allegedly conceded he may have been hallucinating after taking a sleeping tablet"
(he said he might have been hallucinating)

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25595454-10229,00.html

- and this report:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,25589025-5006922,00.html

"Police were called to an apartment in Bellevue Hill about 5.30pm on Wednesday, after the unit's resident reported that five men - at least two of them with guns - were in his backyard and trying to scale his balcony. "

(He phoned in the report)

"Gordon and the male resident, 29, were found hiding in a bedroom."

(Both in the bedroom when police arrived)

The big police response was because of his bikie affiliations. They were both just drugged up by the sounds of it. Nothing new. Storm in a teacup.
Posted by Pynchme, Monday, 8 June 2009 8:14:44 AM
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