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It is never the victim's fault : Comments

By Dannielle Miller, published 25/5/2009

Our blame-the-victim mentality is one of the main reasons many women do not report sexual assault.

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A few years ago I contacted Pizzey, Straus, Steinmetz to check out the published infomation.
I am sure you could find her email address if you looked for it.

http://www.dadsontheair.net/shows/pizzey.htm

<The aphorism, ‘There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics’, recommends a suspicion of numbers claiming to represent the ‘real truth’>

<Yet most domestic violence statistics are treated not as damned lies, or even part-lies, but as the Absolute Truth. As long, that is, as these figures suggest that a lot of women are being abused a lot of the time.>
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/6770/

I'd really like to see the original questions(Paper) that Koss asked her participants.

The original WSS was challanged by the ABS because of it's questionable methodology.

I have been interested in feminism since I was a teenager. I wanted answers and truthful facts. Such as how, as a male I was responsible for the oppression of women.

As too Sacks, well part of that answer is as a male I have been bought up to expect to experience a certain level of violence against myself and to accept that will happen.

Like Amphortas said, firstly the definition gets expanded, but when feminist argue about violence they refer to physical violence.

Sure without doubt there are men who are capable of manipulation and lies. One only needs to look at our politicans for evidence of that.
Posted by JamesH, Monday, 15 June 2009 8:40:50 AM
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Pynchme, I don't have current knowledge of this.
When I was going through the mill DV allegations were a useful tool to establish child residence. By seperating the father from children (to protect them and or the mother) during that crucial period after seperation patterns of residence could be established which were hard to change. Officially those patterns should not have mattered in determining residency but in practice they seemed to.

Motives for that cover a range of options
- a dislike of the other parents parenting style
- seperation bitterness and a desire to get at the other
- higher levels of various payments (FTB, CSA etc) which went with a greater share of child residency
- a greater share of the family assets associated with child residency

My overwhelming impression of the family law support services was that they were dominated by women determined to stick up for other women.

As for the seriousness of the violence at that stage. Some will be down to basic bad values but I think it's made worse by the sense of being trapped in an unjust system. People losing everything and with what seems at the time little prospect of recovery might think that they have nothing to loose. If you have lost a real role in your kids lives, lost your home and pretty much everything else, if you are facing CSA bills which get bigger the more you work and where the focus of all that seems to be an ex who is reaping the benefits of all that (and may be milking it) some will lash out in ways that don't make sense.

The system needs to be seen to be fair to all involved, the system as it was rewarded bad behaviour. Where that occurs some will milk it.

I don't think that this is about one gender being better or worse than the other, rather the reaction to the injustices of the past created a system which put the injustices elsewhere rather than eliminating them.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 15 June 2009 8:52:01 AM
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I seem to recall we used to attempt controlling prostitution by arresting, prosecuting, and re-educating johns. No different with football groupies and this particular batch of johns.

It shows how deeply ingrained our victim mentality, that we automatically accept women as victims and insist on their faultlessness. Guess it must be politically more difficult to control offensive behaviour of the fairer sex. Some of these attitudes are most likely feminist inspired, while no doubt opportunistic chivalry and misguided patriarchy, still contribute to the resultant nonsense.
Posted by Seeker, Thursday, 18 June 2009 10:27:40 AM
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