Col thanks for the gratuitous insult, because you call me "little", I assume you have oversized genitals . . . . . . or have a towering intellect.

Many Australian women were pushed out of well paid jobs that they had performed competently in 1945. As well as being made casual employees upon their marriage from 1930 to mid 1960s.

Col Rouge said "Since employment in most commerce these days is with a company owned by share holders and not a government owned entity involving tax payers, it should remain a private matter for the directors to oversee their managers in applying appropriate standards in staff selection"
Au contraire - shareholders expect to see some accountability to ensure they aren''t pouring their money down the drain. ASIC is expected to ensure corporate governance is not suspect to prop up the integrity of our free market.

HRS says "In a natural state, 50% of children will die before the age of 5, and of those people that live, 50% will die before the age of 60. Those are the natural statistics. But I have never heard a feminist thank men for improving on those statistics."
Well do we thank men, or modern medicine or civil engineers for improving water supplies.
The first caesarian sections where both the mother and child consistently survived were performed by a British army surgeon in South Africa in the 1850s. Upon her death the people laying the body out discovered she was a woman who had had a child.

Not sure you have to be a male to be a doctor or engineer.

Danielle, there is nothing at all wrong with business ethics. But today, to survive,
depending on your industry, you also need to understand the law of the jungle, or
you will get done like a dinner.

Women are great at playing by the rules. What they forget is that there are people out
there, inventing new rules. Did you follow the Bear Stearns collapse? Worth 170$
a share two years ago, 70$ last year, 2$ now. Billions lost, yet hedge funds made
hundreds of millions, by playing the laws of the jungle. Its rough out there and if you don’t understand it, you could lose your knickers.

To cut a long story short, our genetic makeup gives us all certain aptitudes, then things we have less aptitude for. That is influenced by genes, hormones, ligands,
neurotransmitters etc. Wether we are male or female plays a role in all this. Its like
saying men are taller then women, there are always exceptions. Today our understanding of all this has increased and yes, there are things that men are in general better at, things that women are in general better at, allowing for the exceptions, which will always occur.

Yes, women are great on production lines, even assembling aircraft. They are methodical and do what is asked. Guys are more difficult, they will argue about
how things are done and try to find different solutions.

Women have better verbal skills, are more nurturing and caring, are more sensitive
to many things, are great in things like human resources, consumer perceptions etc.

Guys are better strategic thinkers, are better at separating emotion from reason,
don’t have to focus on the kids when making career decisions, are better at
spacial skills and reading maps.

Women are more likely to follow their intuition, which sometimes are correct and sometimes leads them right up the garden path to nowhere.

Oxytocin, which women have in spades, makes them more trusting then men,
also IMHO, more gullible.

The point is, we should do things for which we have a natural aptitude.

Yabby

“But today, to survive, depending on your industry, you also need to understand the law of the jungle, or you will get done like a dinner.”

Not all of us want to play by the law of the jungle, Yabby. Some of us are capable of imagining a better world.

“Women are great at playing by the rules. What they forget is that there are people out
there, inventing new rules.”

Are they inventing new rules? Or just new ways to bend the old rules? In the old game. The game where the winners get to the top on the shoulders of the losers. Some of us are increasingly uncomfortable playing this game. We can't help wondering just how long it will be before the millions of losers rise up and say, To hell with the rules!

“Women are more likely to follow their intuition, which sometimes are correct and sometimes leads them right up the garden path to nowhere.”

Women sure as hell wouldn’t have led us up the garden path to the quagmire of Iraq.

I agree there are inherent differences between the sexes and I think you’ve nailed a few of them here reasonably well. One you didn’t mention was arrogance. Are you capable of even recognizing how patronizing your comments are?

There’s a blindness that comes with arrogance. In your case it’s a blindness to the realization that the entrepreneurial model epitomised by your pin-up boys Branson and Murdoch might just be leading us all up the garden path.

It’s not that we can’t match it in this dog-eat-dog world of which you’re so enamoured. It’s that a lot of us just don’t want to.

SJF, I understand that you believe in equality.

Then as a person who said they believe in equality you would be interested in a book even if it is written by someone you classify as odious, Warren Farrell

"Does Feminism Discriminate Against Men?: A Debate between Warren Farrell (with Steven Svoboda) and James P. Sterba."
http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=afa74692-d935-4240-8a37-5c325ddc62be

The link below contains data about the pay gap.
http://www.geocities.com/socialunderclass/index.html
A sampling of data that supports arguments that men are somehow left off the social (health, education etc) agenda.

HRS

I KNOW you are not a feminist - kinda worked that out for myself.

You did not answer a single question I asked.

To make it easy for you I will keep it to a single question, as follows:

Do you object to women as politicians?

Cheers dear

Billie,

'Many Australian women were pushed out of well paid jobs that they had performed competently in 1945'
Really? That's pretty disgusting. Pushing out women for these men who have been risking their lives and seen their friends shot to pieces and needing some semblance of their old life. Men are such oppressors aren't they?

Bronwyn,

'Women sure as hell wouldn’t have led us up the garden path to the quagmire of Iraq.
'
I'm sooo sick of hearing about this wonderful world women would have created with no wars. Reminds me of all those feminists in the White Feather Brigade.