It seems that a number of posters have forgotten what various wars are all about. Normally some country believes they are more equal than equal, and attack other countries. Other countries then have to defend themselves.

Everyone is equal when they are dead I suppose, and the system that killed more people than WWI, WWII , the Vietnam war, and the Korean war combined had a catchcry of “equality”.

That system was Marxism, and it is ironic that so many feminists have called themselves Marxist.

Men earn more money than women, but women spend more money than men.

No female prime minister, but no political party has a policy for men.

International Women’s Day for women, no International Men’s Day for men.

Few CEO’s are women, but women live longer than men.

So why don’t feminists tell the full story, and not just part of it?

For Danielle and Vanilla,

I unfortunately omitted in saying even though I have no evidence to support my assumption, but I suspect that not all women were pleased about the white feather brigade. I guess that there were more than a few rational women who did not let themselves get carried away with the moment. No I dont beleive that all women are tarred with the same brush.

One quote I beleive that was/is very significant is,

"Although the initial recruitment efforts of women were deemed patriotic, the realities of war and the often nasty manner in which this method was executed was eventually deemed, at the very least, in extremely poor taste. As the carnage was calculated, people took pains to distance themselves from any participation in recruitment efforts."

Contemplate this if you will?

Firstly the efforts women of the white feather were seen as patriotic and then once the emotion of the event is past and the damage is being assesed nobody wants to accept responsibility for their own behaviour, nor do they want to be associated with the consequences of their behaviour.

It’s great to see some acknowledgement of responsibility from the more virtuous.

Whitty: “Further, women ARE equal to men, it just happens to be in something most women and men reject.”

Sadly, there seems to be a lot of truth in this. So frustrating too.

Remember SJF’s infamous “Because Western women are still unequal in every sense other than legally…” on that other thread? I doubt we’ll ever get a proper explanation, or one that makes sense.

I have also wondered about hypergamy – the apparent need for unequal relationships. It seems to be a factor in ugly divorce stories. Think Heather Mills as one of the more extreme examples. Surely if women really wanted equality, one would expect different behaviour than what is on show. Is it perhaps an example of a journey being more important than its destination?

“Despite decades of societal shifts, the phenomenon of hypergamy - where men date "down" and women date "up" - endures. So wealthy, older men continue to partner "down" to younger, less affluent women. And vice versa.”

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23446822-5007146,00.html

And here’s how we bring up the next generation of feminists:

“SPRAY tans, manicures, pedicures and facials are just a few of the indulgent birthday treatments being enjoyed by girls as young as four and five.”

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23450318-2,00.html

Cornflower,

"There would be many who would disagree with that first statement ("boys did go, and came back men"). It is the militarist rhetoric of the chicken hawks who send others to war.

As to the second, it is very doubtful if anyone can be successfully 'transformed back into civilian life' after their wartime experiences."

Re your first comment. You have chosen to read my post incorrectly. Perhaps I should have expressed it such:

Boys went to war, came back as men, having lost their youth, their innocence, and having aged prematurely.

Your second comment re: "successfully tranformed into civilian life."

When soldiers came back from fighting in New Guinea, many, many were taken from the ship directly to Repatriation hospitals for months of psychiatric treatment. None said that being transformed back into civilian life was necessarily easy; nor indeed successful for all.

Many, if not most, returned servicemen do not speak of their experiences.

Career - professional soldiers - are quite distinct from enlisted men. They are worlds apart.

I wasn't going to bother with another post on a thread well past its use by date that is just going in circles.

But after Col Rouge's little ode to his beloved Maggie Thatcher, whom he oddly describes as a woman with balls, a curious image, did Maggie have an hormonal imbalance? If not, then Col why can't you just say she was a woman of great courage? I don't agree with her politics very much but I do acknowledge her as being courageous.

Anyway, my favourite Margaret Thatcher quote:

“In politics if you want anything said ask a man, if you want anything done ask a woman.”

In closing:

What women want is a fair go and no-one male or female is going to get 'a fair go' until there is equal representation across our society of both men and women.

Together

*What women want is a fair go and no-one male or female is going to get 'a fair go' until there is equal representation across our society of both men and women.*

Fractelle, the "equal" has to be based on merit, not dependant
on the owner having a pair of labias or not.