I think poor old Timkins/HRS should acquaint himself with some other "ists" - like psychologists, therapists, psychiatrists and other appropriate specialists, for example.

This repetitve bleating is clearly a cry for help. The poor chap needs assistance, not a soapbox.

C. J. Morgan.
It is noticeable that if someone disagrees with you, you immediately abuse them, or say they are mentally insane and have to go to a psychologist or psychiatrist.

This was a feature of various “isms” such as Communism and Marxism, where if someone disagreed, they were sent to re-education camps.

It is also a factor with feminism, where men have to go to special courses to be re-educated. Why? Because they are men, and men are abusive, but of course feminists such as yourself are not.

Thank god you are no longer a teacher.

Yabby keeps quoting the sum of money garnered by high clas hookers and Heather Mills. I take it as indication of the regard with which he holds women.

How HRS can compare feminism with Marxism, Communism, Nazism and Socialism is beyond me, I think HRS needs help.

HRS should see "Rosie the Riveter" to see how Democracy has manipulated women to achieve societal goals, in this case mobilising the work for the american War effort 1939 to 1945 and the subsequent push for family values to get women out of the workforce so that demobilised men had a job.

*Yabby keeps quoting the sum of money garnered by high clas hookers and Heather Mills. I take it as indication of the regard with which he holds women.*

Billie, women are all individuals, so my regard for them varies
accordingly. The Mills and Spitzer stories are plastered across
most news sites, so I mentioned them.

I certainly carry no moral baggage about women who sell sexual
favours to men for 1-5000$ an hour. I'm surprised that men will
pay that kind of money, but clearly they are. Frankly if women
were prepared to pay that much, I'm sure you would find plenty
of willing male volunteers :)

I have far more of a moral problem with some women who seem to have turned
marriage into a business. 36'000$ a day sounds a bit steep, for
getting the housework done.

HRS, are you able to admit that a person who opposed the stoning of non-veiled women in fundamentalist nations, would be an honourable feminist yet?

You really can't, can you. It's quite a handicap you have there.

Anything that even has a hint of feminism must be opposed in your view - so it's not their stance at all, it's what they are, not who they are.

Garn. Try. Consider the notion, that somebody who opposed the stoning of women, might be honourable, and might be a feminist.

Are you brave enough to admit that perhaps, just perhaps, a feminist might be capable of good?

You don't have to admit all of them, you don't have to even admit the movement is positive on a whole. You just have to acknowledge that some feminists might do good work, and in the name of feminism at that.

Can you? Have you got the courage to apply this logic, or even put up reasoning to the contrary, that isn't a shallow potshot at 'isms' or a request for irrelevant informaion, or your fallback victim, 'I'm being abused' mentality?

If you haven't the courage to do this, then it's no wonder you think you're getting abused. People tend to get annoyed when others can't accept the most basic piece of reasoning.

TRTL

Love the challenge to HRS

I would like to know his opinion of removal of the clitoris that occurs in some cultures - would he object to men and women opposing this?

Does HRS object to male and female surgeons receiving the same pay for the same work?

Does HRS object to women voting?

To women becoming politicians?

How about women driving cars? Does he object to this?

I am paying off my own home without the help of a man, not so long ago I could not even been granted a mortgage, does HRS object to this? Should I be renting instead?

What about female newsreaders, 30 years ago there were only male newsreaders, because it was considered that female voices lacked gravitas. Does HRS object to female newsreaders?

Female scientists - HRS should women be able to become scientists?

I have heard a plethora of reasons why HRS dislikes feminists, what I want to know is whether he has reasons to object to any of the above mentioned.