Yabby,

Women aren't asking for special treatment. They are asking for equality - - this is the basis of the argument.

Danielle: "Women aren't asking for special treatment. They are asking for equality - - this is the basis of the argument."

The way the statistics are presented means they're asking not for equal treatment, but for equal outcomes. The inference is that they want special treatment to ensure these equal outcomes.

I do get very amused by HRS logic:

He states: "For all their propaganda, I have rarely heard a feminist mention the word "democracy."

Y'know, I've rarely heard environmentalists mention it either. Cunning fiends must be out to subvert our governments.

Same goes for washing machine salesmen and maybe dogs too.

Actually... Gosh HRS! I've never heard you specifically state that you're opposed to cruelty to animals!

HRS, you puppy killer! That's disgusting! Guys, he's clearly a puppy killer! Everything he says must be wrong!

Wow. Vacations in the land of HRS logic are fun. It's so much easier than making a coherent argument.

HRS, are you willing to admit yet, that if say, a woman opposed the stoning of Saudi Arabian women who don't wear veils, and logically said that as she's defending women's rights, she's a feminist, could you admit this feminist has a worthy pursuit?

Are you willing to admit that feminists might do some good, as opposed to every single one being bad?

Logically, making this admission looks quite easy, but the fact that you simply can't bring yourself to admit that any feminist has a worthwhile view, is a stone-cold clear indicator of you are indeed a misogynist.

It's not that you hate feminism - you could logically take an approach that overall, the movement is negative, though there are a minority of feminists doing good work with positive contributions. I disagree, but it's a defensible position.

But you simply can't, because you really do hate anyone who sticks up for women.
Clear proof you're are actually misogynist, HRS. I'm not calling you that because you dislike feminism, I'm doing it because I've just proven that you really do dislike women on the whole, you just know that normal people find that ugly so you hide your hatred of women as hatred of feminists, which is nominally more palatable.

But I'm sure you'll find a way to not actually respond to logical arguments. I'm pretty sure you've run out of original tactics though, but it'll be interesting to see which one you choose.

And yet your rarely hear HRS use the word "aubergine".

Vanilla,
You seem to know a lot about name calling, and also abuse.

Feminism = abuse + villification of males + name calling (all hidden behind equality).

Also see the following:-
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_2.htm

Those attroticies were carried by "ists" who continuously talked about "equality", but like feminists, they rarely talked about democracy.

Quite so, Vanilla. No mention of "aubergines".

However, he's on about "ists" again - are they anything like "ilks", do you think?

(P.S. I like 'Vanilla's Law', but I suspect it's too subtle for many around here)