Real

Thanks for your Post. I assume you are speaking to our Marilyn Shepard.

Nobody can say I have not tried to work with Muslim and Muslim Leaders of Australia.

In fact I am the only Australian as far as I know to ave a MOU with them. We are even featured on their web page.
here- under Halal Kind Meats >

http://www.afic.com.au/

That is for Marilyns Shepards benefit so she cant say I am anti Muslim.

We have offered her for years on and off a chance to help the aboriginal people through our programe.
Very little interest I am afraid.

Unlike some the Howard Government have actually been working very hard for two years to put together something for the aboriginal people of Australia.


Now M unlike yourself I wrote to the QLD Government ten years ago about overseas Drs here.

I wanted to know why 80% of public Drs were being employed for a company by the name of Global in Salt Lake City.

I gave a real good example of not only incompidence but down right illegal practices.

The standards of medical training is a discrace. QLD people have had enough of these so called Drs.

They dont need explosives to kill because they are killings us already and worse.

I know its nothing to "you" this dood is a cousin of the other bloke and "lived with them."

btw--fyi John Howard does not run the Federal Police either.

You know far more than the Federal police do you/
Please share?

After all - whats 13 gal of petrol and a few nails in a "DRS "?Car without a explosive?

Why oh Why do you always claim everybodys been set up without knowing anything.
You do yourself a diservice and the ones who possibly are.
Why dont you think the Federal Police should not err on the side of caution M?
I just do not understand why you never wait to find all the facts.
Regards from The Gold Coast

Marilyn
I think you have overlooked some rather basic points in your dialogue.
1) Cornelia Rau was found wandering in the Queensland bush. She gave a false name and refused to speak English. She carried no ID and her behaviour was bizarre, the authorities could not establish an identity and she was not listed as missing. That would seem an immediate family failing to me?

2) The goose that cooked himself in Glasgow was not driving around with a car full of nails, petrol and gas cylinders to make the caring doctor of the year list.

3) I am sure Bill Kelty knows more about the workings of doctor Haneef and his associations than you or I do. What would you have to say if Haneef was released and another Haneef associate in Australia carried a bombing ? Let the AFP do the research and if he is innocent then release him.

real, your faith in your government is very sweet.

For all I know Dr. Haneef could be a criminal mastermind.

However, based on the evidence available so far, he looks more like the hapless Josef K in Franz Kafka's novel, The Trial. The AFP look like the Keystone Cops.

I'll reserve final judgment until the matter either comes to trial and we can see the evidence, or is dismissed; but so far I'm not impressed by the performance of those charged with protecting us.

I cannot improve on Sushi Das's analysis of the AFP interviewing Haneef so I'll post a link and let readers see for themselves:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/police-dont-recognise-key-cultural-social-signposts/2007/07/22/1185042944420.html

When the dust has settled I think we shall find there are two lessons to be learned from the Haneef affair.

(1)Be wary of granting the police too many powers to detain without trial. Even with the best of intentions they're likely to cock it up.

(2)Don't curb free speech. It is only because people like Sushi Das are allowed an unfettered right of comment that abuses or misuses of power can be brought to light.

The last comment is especially relevant to Muslims. Do not be so keen to restrict freedom of speech because you don't like what people say about Islam. You never know when you will need people who can speak their minds freely.

It appears that a key member of the Government is admitting Dr Haneef's incarceration is drifting further from a crime that occurred in Britain and more towards pre-electoral desperation:

The Herald Sun today http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22123510-662,00.html reported

"THE legal team for Dr Mohamed Haneef continued its battle to free the accused terror suspect as the Government yesterday admitted it cancelled his visa purely to keep him in the country.

Deputy Prime Minister Mark Vaile said that Immigration Minister Kevin Andrews' decision to cancel Dr Haneef's visa immediately after he was granted bail in a Brisbane Magistrates' Court last week was "to ensure the individual stayed in Australia".

The Government's admission was another boost for Dr Haneef's team, which has been outspoken of the Australian Federal Police and the Government's handling of the case.

Last week, Mr Andrews revoked Dr Haneef's visa, despite his bail conditions including him surrendering his passport.

Mr Vaile's admission caught Mr Andrews -- who spent most of last week justifying his decision on character and national security -- by surprise, his office referring calls on the matter back to Mr Vaile".

Rapid Government denials are expected. The Government now appears under too much pressure to deny things convincingly - however much it exposes the AFP to political campaigning.

The Government may well be saving up its touted secret evidence for hearings in August - closer to the election - great timing - more strategic Government leaks before that?

Pete

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/nothing-much-on-haneef-india/2007/07/24/1185043115513.html
I love it when the usual paranoics step into the fray with mindless drivel.

Yes the lad in Glasgow had a shocking fire but not one person has ever suggested it was a bomb anywhere in any coverage of the story.

However, it is our stupid Mick Keelty who keeps getting things horribly wrong. I don't have the foggiest notion why he has his job after turning in the Bali 9 to see them on death row when he actively conspired for the drug smuggling to happen, when he lied to the senate about Mamdouh Habib being in Egypt and other assorted madness.

So India have found nothing on Dr Haneef, the Brits. were never interested in him and the clowns in Australia over reacted and made the rest of it up.

As I said in the beginning.