Michael
We are really busy here. I just like to pop on these OLO sometimes as a bit of a break from work. I dont always read every comment. I would like to but cant spare the time.
The the other gentleman wrote something that I decided to follow through on.
I understand that everybody who spends their time to post on a thread looks for a reply.

Also many people read these posts and never make a comment- ever.
Mr G

Possibly John Howard was misinformed about some things.
However either way if your trying to tell me Australia was safe before -I would disagree.
All Westernern Countries were are still are on the hit list by these people.
As far as SH is concerned many were delighted to see him go.
He was a cruel man who gassed his own people and tortured and murdered thousands more.

What I dont understand is both your agressive attitudes to be honest.
Australia is the first country to offer help in a disaster.

Just look at the efforts made by our people after the floods.
If you dont like it here why dont you simply just leave.
I love Australia and our way of life.
I love the fact we are always the first to help others.
As for these wars all I can think of is the world trade center.
What an evil act.

If Bush or Tony Blaire thought by going in after some of the people behind that then personally I dont have a problem with it.

I do agree this country will be attacked- Yes.
I remember my wonderful grandfather telling us kids we would never hold ths country in the years to come.
I tend to think we will give them a darn good run for their money however.
Freedom is a wonderful thing and like our grandfather and fathers before us we will fight to keep it.

According to several posters here, this country is in the hands of a bigotted despot[right marilyn?] who is making a victim out of would be migrants simply to gain votes in a forthcoming election.
I would suggest that to save any further suffering on their part, they pack up and take off for Pakestan, Saudi Arabia, Libya ,Darfur, Sudan and various other health spots where they will get the freedom they so richly deserve.
Then we who are still here[I was going to say LEFT here but we are right]will be able to live without all the screeching and divisiveness[marilyn] that rules our once peaceful life. Go in peace, soon.

I must repeat that I am deeply dissatisfied with a lack of a practical outcome from bravados at a very start of a Haleef case, of which just the UK and probably the USA might be contributed with an effective reason for denying an entry to a foreigner-Muslim having his Australian visa cancelled on behavioral grounds.

No, the US would hardly be contributed as Indian nationals need the US entry visa anyway.

TarynW, what for a nonsense of a comment is that about that I can leave if I don’t like it. I come up for constitutional rights and pursue the RULE OF LAW as constitutionally permissible. If you approve TYRANNY and DICTATORSHIP then you can have it but then do not complain about animal rights either.

I have just put another article on my blog and about this nonsense of “secret intelligence” as Kevin Andrews is on about. We had this all about the WEAPONS-OF-MASS-DESTRUCTION. We were guaranteed they had the reliable information but could not release it to us. We also had the promise the WMDs would be found within 6 months. We are now 4½ year later!

I may not approve of what is reported about the conduct of the late President Saddam Hussein, but a fact was that he had constitutional immunity! If we were to apply the same of John Howard and his cohorts they would quickly claim to have constitutional protection, yet against others it is a different thing.

The Australian Federal Police has no constitutional powers and on that basis any purported evidence they have should be inadmissible in Court. Now as long as the Commonwealth of Australia persist to conduct matters unconstitutionally then they must face the consequences. We had enough innocent people framed by authorities, Time Anderson being one having spend about 10 years in imprisonment. Now, this is not at all making Australia safer, rather unsafe.

Just wait till one day you are the victim of this power abuse and then see how you will react. I do not think you will then be so supportive of this kind of tyranny!

A society must have rules and no one should be above the law, not even politicians.
We, as a society, murdered Iraqi’s in their own country, in their own homes, such as toddlers when asleep in bed. If you even contemplate to justify such a conduct then I view you lost the plot.

And, reality is we are now worse of then before the invasion!

One-day-the-"MADE IN THE USA" BIOLOGICAL/CHEMICAL WEAPONS-may-be-delivered-to-us,-no-matter-how-unwelcome-it-might-be.

Mr G. No sir you are the only one shouting.
Dont you remember the world trade center which was an attack on all of us?

M Shepard. How can Howard be reponsible for what some guy did or didnt do with his Sim Card?
Give us a break.
The Australian Federal Policde[ no spell correction apoligies]
= Police are charged with putting your safety first.
They did that.
Now M the question is are they more experienced than you?
Answer= Yup.
What about asking if I am more experienced than you when dealing with these people?
lets compare notes shall we?

Would it be fair to say they[ the federal police] have been lied to eye to eye on many ocashions? Answer is-= Yup
Question - Is the Australian Governments" responsible in any way for this split country?
Answer is Yup.
Do people suddenly become Australian because they have a peice[piece] of paper saying they are? Answer is = Nope.
Should we give out visas on different time levels [ ie one year two year five year ten year instead of PR papers.
Answer is Yup.

Are their[there] any people who might just have a little more first hand dealings and information that yourself and good old Mr G ?
Answer is = Yup

Is John Howard guilty of putting the safety of Australians first?
Answer is= Yup.
Are the federal Police guilty of putting the safety of Australian public first?
Answer is Yup.
Would you leave your [p]= lap top behind if your were a Dr on leave?
If so why?
Wouldnt you be concerned about your patients in the case the need arose for other Drs to contact you?
Dont you think the conversation with the brother was enough to pick him up?
If not why not?
Would you prefer we did nothing to protect the men and women of Australia because we might offend somebody?
What do you think we could do to improve sercurity in Australia?

People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming-
“What could we do to prevent terrorism?”

-abolishing de-facto racist politics underpinning Australia’s reality
-decreasing intake of migrants in general and high educated skilled practically as they are natural enemies of the racist Australian establishment
-no concentration of Muslims to be allowed in country areas where not-willing-to-notice-only knows of NO training camps.