Howard & Co attempted to instill Fear about union bosses but failed to change the poll ratings. They then attempted to use prejudice with the NT ‘shock and awe’ campaign but failed to change the poll ratings. So, the next thing was to use fear and xenophobia together with Haneef being the victim of Howard’s determination to win but he didn’t expect Haneef’s barrister to take action to show that Howard had manipulated a police state plan with the AFP to fabricate false evidence, a dastardly plan of lies and deceit in order to con the gullible and naïve yet again.

I'm quite sure Howard hasn't given up on using Fear and Xenophobia as his 'rabbits out of the hat' strategies, and expect him to use the ‘terrorism’ strategy again, especially at the APEC meeting. However, from now on, the AFP may not be so willing to go along with the PM's police state tricks, as they failed dismally trying it this time.

I find it shocking that so many people were conned by Howard's latest fear and xenophobia trick. If it hadn't been for the barrister sticking his neck out, the ruse might have worked. Despite the children overboard the gullible and naïve would have been conned yet again by the Howard government's propaganda machine. We can only hope that with this fiasco, the majority of the gullible and naïve will wake up and stay awake as this was the nastiest case of political trickery I've seen in this country.

Meanwhile I certainly hope that the review of Haneef's case results in him being released soon. I think he'll probably be deported to India sooner rather than later as Howard & Co will want the voters to forget this failed political trick so they can clear the decks before they try their next 'terror' stunt during the APEC meeting.

Bobbicee and Marilyn

Why dont you wait to see what happens in court before saying anything against our AFP who are charged with protecting you.

John Howard just like the rest of us takes his advise off the AFP and so does his Minister.

Also they wont deport him if there is proof he is innocent.

He will of course ask to leave. The tax payer will most likely pick up the bill if thats the case along with a quite settlement.
Which brings us back to the fact we should have our own Drs.

The Federal Government passed over billions to the ALP States for training and education of Drs and others.
Where are they? Stop putting it at the feet of the Federal Government when each State is resonsibly for their own hospitals and Drs.
The hospitals are controlled by the states along with nursing homes and a whole lot of other stuff.
I would imagine it would be the same as a murder as far as the case would be set out in law.
That means you have to show one hundred percent the guys guilty.

Many people have walked in Australia because of these laws.
Its our so called justice system.
I am not like yourselves by pre judging this matter because I dont have all the facts.
You keep picking on The Prime Minister who was in America when they hit the world trade center. I can imagine the effect that would have on a PM.

We know we have sleepers here and have had for years.
So I think its fair we err on the side of caution.
If this guy is not charged with anything it could be either because he is innocent or we dont have enough evidence.

All we know is he shared accomadtion with them and the one involved is his cousin.

If I were the AFP I certainly would have picked him up as a person of interest.


Nobody wants to see an innocent person goaled.
Its not the Aussie way.

Yeah, a pity, but this doctor working as a hospital desk registrar (!) is seen to be the most suspect because of not applying for PR as other way-bought fellow-countrymen of him, and being Muslim. Well, the US ambassador to the UN is Muslim too.

All my civic and juror’s expertise could hardly allow being naïve to such a degree:
“Why dont you wait to see what happens in court before saying anything against our AFP who are charged with protecting you.

John Howard just like the rest of us takes his advise off the AFP and so does his Minister.

Also they wont deport him if there is proof he is innocent.”

And how could one deal with un-deportable Australians? Any tender on erecting the modern concentration camps locally? Or renovating the Nauru refugee camps for benefiting a banana-state with a hard currency income to repay Australian credits?

It is really a pity that this guy is rather alike a sarcastic movie porno-character than traditional terrorist, a black beard, eyes and toned skin.

PALE, clearly Marilyn and Bobbicee had a clearer understanding of the problem. Dr Haneef must still be anxious about remaining in department of immigration "care"

Michaelk Billie

It would seem Australias terribly unfair sytem has indeeed been fair according to the news.

Please do not try to twist my words and make out I am anti Muslim either.

As a matter of fact I work very closely with Muslim leaders Of Australia and hold a MOU with them.


That does not mean I cant have any thoughts on how we run our sercurity in this country.

Does anybody know why he was at the air port with a one way ticket to India?

We heard the hospital was expecting him at work that day.

Perhaps that was simply media hype although I hear locally his landlord was not expecting him to be leaving the country either.

As I said its best to wait until we get all of the facts rather than make judgement either way.

The head of AFP said on the news last night that his advise regarding him has not changed.

I asume he means that he still finds this man as a person of interest.

Mind you I am just guessing.

On the other hand PALEIF, it could just mean that there is utterly no case and never was. I think Dr Haneef was lucky he was as innocent as he appeared. Despite this, only the additional fact of a Keystone Cops, Prosecutors and Andrews vaudeville so spectacular even the press could not ignore it eventaully saved him.
Yet Dr Haneef, for little better than the colour of his skin, has had to endure a traumatic time in his life that he will have nightmares over for decades to come. A stronger, but weak by any normal standards case, would had whoever the poor victim was rotting forever.
The laws give too much power to those not capable of handling it and demand too little accountability. Only the weakest possible case could have failed and only then from complicating factors. And now they want "reform" it to make it even harder for a defendent to protect herself.
Return the normal assumptions of innocence prior to guilt and habeas corpus to the law and make prosecutors prove their assumptions, not have hapless bystanders picked up on a whim busting their guts to prove their innocence against the concocted slanders and whimsical accusations of idiots like Bugg and Andrews.
No accountability; no democracy, only a police state.