Dear FH. still waiting for a clear and simple answer on the meaning of 9:30

Today..Hilali calls for Muslims to 'stand in the trenches' with Iran.

Headline "Iran call sparks Hilali sedition probe"

Lets compare his action with the conditions imposed by MOhammad in the Treaty of Hudabiya.

"No attacks on any of Mohammad's forces OR any allied to him."

Mohammed decided that the Meccans had broken the treaty, because some obscure tribe allied to the Quraish attacked (quite justly from what I read) an ally of Mohammad. On this basis he invaded Mecca. "They have broken the treaty"

On the same basis of Hilali's antics, Kaab bin Al Ashraf was assasinated. "He is seeking alliances with the enemies of Islam"
He was writing poetry against MOhammad, and stirring up others against Mohammad.

HILALI IS DOING THE SAME ! except it is against Australia!

Clearly, this 'moderate' is one major reason why there is no possibility of Muslim integration into Australian society, the only possible course is 'parallel' society and an eventual attempt at usurping our sovereignty.
If Hilali and company are calling for the Muslim world to "stand in the trenches with Iran" "now".....what will they be saying if they have infiltrated our society at much more serious level.

We should scrutinise more closely the nature of Mohammad's treaties, and when and why he broke them, and how he considered others broke them, and how he acted subsequently. Why? because Hilali and company are VERY aware of these things.

Call Hilali many things, but don't call him 'irrelevant' specially when he has the clear support of the Lebanese Muslims.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21725189-601,00.html
Alalam on its website had quoted the disputed leader of Australia's 300,000 Muslims as saying the global Islamic nation would not "kneel" to its enemies and should unite with Iran. "The mufti of Australia has called on the Islamic world to stand in the trenches with the Islamic Republic of Iran which possesses the might and power," the website reported.

Did everyone note the term "Global Islamic NATION"

Snappy Tom,

My point exactly: it not the scripture but how you preach it.

Boaz,

Stop living in the past.
The Time magazine top 100 most influencial personalities chose a Muslim Moderate preacher: Amr Khaled.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100walkup/article/0,28804,1611030_1610841_1610319,00.html

Any idea why Hilali is still in the Australian news and not this guy?

Peace,

F_H

I took the time to read A Khaled's and 42 other Muslim cleric's proclamation.

My first impression is to believe in the greater good inherent in most people.

Unfortunately, I can not help but recall A Arafat of the PLO -- a despotic, amoral, mass murdering, duplicitous, smiling snake. He conned the left leaning media along with Presidents Carter, Bush, Nixon and Clinton for decades. Peace agreement after peace agreement dashed due to his duplicitous dealings.

Why? Simply, because the prime goal of destroying Israel would not be achieved during peacetime.

I would like to belive that Western democracies have learned something after the decades of deceit by the quintessential moderate Muslim slime ball.

What are the bookmaker's odds that Amr Khaled isn't playing another version of con the infidels and catch them napping

Yeah, same faces-same stories. Allah Akbar-Long live Christ!

F.H. I presume Hilaly is in the news because:

a) Newscorp is 'out to get him'
b) He makes possibly seditious statements about all muslims aligning with Iran.
c) He is twofaced.
d) He offends Australians in every second mouthfull.
e) all of the above.

How many 'Good Christians' are in the news ? scarce few. But how many 'hatchet jobs' has Hollywood done on the image of Christians by portraying them as:
a)Whackos.
b)Skitzoids.
c)Child molesters.
d)Happy Clapping geeks.

My concern, to be a bit repetitive, is that radicals will always seek to radicalIZE moderates. So, even though nice blokes like your good self can fit in no problem, the 13 who I saw in the dock in Melbourne appear to have different ideas. They won't even stand for the magistrate.

As an example of how dangerous the Radicals are. Bear in mind that 'Al Ghurabaa' is pretty much defunkt now to my knowledge, but this little group had big impact.
This is their type of Theology:
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/alshifa/pt4ch1sec2.htm

This is how it was translated into mobs on the streets of London.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-1z2MRTaQ8&mode=related&search=

So, we can attack the 'ideas' behind these groups or we can attack THEM physically. I'm sure you would agree that the 'word' is preferable to the fist.
But one thing is for sure, unless these satanists (radical Muslims) are stopped, they could do a LOT of damage.

Everybody asks me how I wrote "Elastic Man", so I tell these Gretchen Franklin nosey matron things, "How dare you assume I want to parlez-vous with you?" It's that easy. So I hear you telephone thing listening in, 'cos I can hear the grass grow and I hear rainbows in the evening.