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Positive Muslim integration is possible : Comments

By Imran Lum, published 4/5/2007

Issues Deliberation Australia, far from turning ugly, ended up being a real eye opener for both Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

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Cowboy Joe

“will be listening to talk back radio waiting for moderate Australian Muslims to soundly denounce the legislation. Their silence will speak volumes – again”

That’s why myself and many Aussie Muslims stopped calling the talk back radio. I am out of the guilt trip. It worked for a while but I am not going to run and call a radio station every time does something stupid somewhere on planet earth.
US Mormons have 50,000 polygamy cases based on interpretation (or mis-interpretation of the Bible). I am not knocking on my Catholic or Orthodox friends next door telling them ‘please explain’.

Boaz,

I always feel like a fish in a tank: wow, look, it’s a whole new coral…5 seconds later…wow, look it’s a *the same* whole new coral, etc…
You quote "FH is in 'minority status' Islam…"
So now that you are running out of arguments, you pushed me in the ‘minority’ box? So what do I make out of the 80-100 Aussie Muslims that I know in Sydney? They are bankers, accountants, engineers, traders, shopkeepers who are working hard to make a living, contribute to the society and raise a family. All of them are a minority? You are right, keep focussing the microscope on the ‘hardly visible majority’, I am sure you will find 'few' to use as a 'majority. Two words: ‘seek help’

PS: Please spare us the 'sincere concerns' statement. If one is sincere about observing the ‘moderates and modernisation’ as you claim, you wouldn’t be dwelling on Pakistan and Mawdudi interpretations of the Quran..
Posted by Fellow_Human, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 1:28:29 PM
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Fellow Human, don't despair. It is a common trick to reduce opposing moderate voice of Islam. Please keep on writing and commenting. There are non-Muslims like myself listening and want to exchange thoughts.

Without contributors like yourself, it will just be us 'others' squabling amongst ourselves. And if you think your credibility can be reduced, a non-Muslim is completely without credibility.

The vociferous comments when a moderate Muslim writes an article for OLO are quite extraordinary. It just is never moderate enough, or loud enough, or Middle Eastern enough (only Aussie/Western). It simply is never good enough for some.
Posted by yvonne, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 9:55:58 PM
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“Moderate Muslims”-is not a stupid expression?

To what degree was any other confession already being moderated, or?
Posted by MichaelK., Thursday, 17 May 2007 3:44:10 PM
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The great communicator MichaelK stumbles over his thoughts again.

At least he is trying to be concise, maybe there is hope.
Posted by Cowboy Joe, Thursday, 17 May 2007 8:10:52 PM
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Actually, a conciseness providing a core of an issue is a talent itself, and needs no tumbling by lacking the elementary topic-related professionalism and understanding uneducated cowboys.
Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 18 May 2007 1:57:00 PM
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Isn't it time the Federal Government legislated an Accetable Behaviour for all Religions Act?
Some relevent points could be:
Equality between male & female:
Western/Australian dress in public
No persecution for changing religions:
All ministers to preach in English
Threats of violence to be a Federal offence
Australia Day to be sub-named "Integration Day" with many activities to reflect this
Religious schools to activily integrate with State Schools etc
Posted by wollads, Sunday, 20 May 2007 9:08:47 PM
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