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Positive Muslim integration is possible : Comments

By Imran Lum, published 4/5/2007

Issues Deliberation Australia, far from turning ugly, ended up being a real eye opener for both Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

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Sounds nice and totally supportive by already segregated from "mainstream majority" :

“Each and every person of legal residency in Australia or born in Australia must pronounce themselves Australian(their choice)and act accordingly to the best interest of Australia and Australians regardless of race, creed or colour”.

By a way, how being officially segregated into “ethnic minorities” might act as a majority if segregation and “OWN way” already predetermines differentiation from tribal outsiders?
Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 8 June 2007 1:22:58 AM
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Like I said Michael, no one is forcing you to join with mainstream society. You are free to huddle up to your tribal fires and pray to your Gods and use the social systems developed and supported by mainstream society as your right. You can barricade yourself within ghettos or barrios or city apartment blocks or suburban estate parks. However, you do not have the right to then promote hate and advocate violence because your never considered for mainstream leadership. If you have excluded yourself from mainstream considerations, you are not a victim of mainstream society. Time you owned up to the choices you have made and quit blaming everyone else for your existence.
Integration Michael is that of an active participant not that of someone whom advocates the world revolve around them.
Posted by aqvarivs, Friday, 8 June 2007 5:00:30 AM
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Your post is a mere tautology because institutional racism and Anglo-paternalism leave no space for non-Anglos/non-Christians in mainstream activities but a subversive niche where self-indulging feeling of being an Australian has not only been ostracized by self-proclaimed “Aussies”-that is Anglo-Saxons/Celts with a particular accent rather than even a birthplace- and de-facto by an existing system of “recommending” the dole recipients on ubiquitous job-providers’ requests if any, while modifying employment statistics to make a pitiful job-market situation more positive prior elections oncoming.

As understood, expressed repeatedly suggestions that non-Anglos cannot rule this Anglo-colonial appendix to an English crown, have been a perfect testimony to the above written.

Itself, interpretation of “rule a country” is too broad, because any VSI-short redneck might be offended by employing a skilled non-Anglos at any appropriate professional position.

What I hear around only is “God forbid from working in a multicultural that is including non-Anglos team”, which is the beginning and end of an Australian “integration”.
Posted by MichaelK., Friday, 8 June 2007 9:29:18 PM
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Can somebody explain this to me-

In some strong Muslim countries, men wear white robes & women wear black- If the country is all Muslim, don't they trust Muslim men?-
Why do women in old age still wear the coverings- to prevent sexual attack?

In some other Muslim countries. men wear western clothes, women don't- Why the distinction?

In some muslim countries, leading business women wear western clothes-

Women wearing a headress is saying to all "I am a Muslim"
Fair enough- What if everyone walked around with a sign saying "I am a Budist, Hindu, etc etc- would their be any harmony?

Wear what you like in private or at worship, but wear the normal clothes which does not display your belief in public I say.
Posted by wollads, Friday, 8 June 2007 9:40:32 PM
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Imagine this- A boatload of "normal"people, from many different religions, get shipwecked- most clothes are lost at sea so all have to wear the same type of clothes- To survive on the island they all swim to, they have to talk and work together- no distinctions- After a month they are rescued- They feel a sense of sadness as they have realy gotten to know each other, and most promise to keep in touch.

Now look at modern life where people proudly display their "Religion" by wearing of clothing which sets them apart and says" I am different- and probably better than you- Do you see them talking to people not dressed the same way? Communication both directions-NIL

Work it out Australia!
Posted by wollads, Friday, 8 June 2007 9:57:00 PM
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MichaelK, My posts are needless repetitions of an idea?
Well, I suppose that is the best argument I'll get from a racist hater who believes he'd be ruling the world if it wasn't for his skin colour.
Do yourself a favour sport. Get over yourself and join the rest of the world. That is the subtle nuance behind the word and act of integrating.
Of course it means you'll have to drop the attitude and that isn't likely now is it. Better to blame white Australia for your personal issues and failures. Keep the tribal fires burning.
Posted by aqvarivs, Friday, 8 June 2007 11:46:21 PM
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