Hawaiilawyer,

Thanks for your post.

The Ten Commandments are more likely to have their orgin in The Book of the Dead, which preceeded the ten commandments by eight hundred years. The author of The Ten Commandments is lkiely to have developed his mythology based on Greco-Egyptian mythology. [The Hammurabic Code also predates The Ten Commandments]. Moreover, the Christian denominations (between themselves), Jews and Muslims have different commandments. "Thou shalt to covet thy neighbour's house" [envy] is not in the Protestant codes.

Hermes was the message of the gods, principally Zeus. Hermes had stong connections with the afterlife and accompanied the dead to the afterlife. As a human he interpreted scriputural meaning. Open up a common dictionary and look up the word, "hermeneutic".

- A question- What is the relation between (a) God the Father (NT) and (b) the Son of God (NT), with El in head of the Council of Gods in the OT [Psalm 82]?

Philo,

How would God in the NT [Father, Son and H.G.), judge the God in OT [El, Yehwah and council members], in your opinion? Did Yewah honour His father, when He deposed Him? [Psalm 82]

Well the idea of nothingness is just that, an idea. Nothingness cannot exist unless it's an imaginary teddy (god) that creates nothingness in the minds of people. Many teddy infected people hide underneath the comforting grasp of their teddy cheer leaders who have concocted their web of circular "logic", making one believe this is some sort of noble loving act by a teddy (god).

Peter in this article speaks of the doctrine of the trinity that can only be "taught" ... that teddy the father, teddy the son and teddy the holy spirit are each equally and eternally the one true teddy. This is top shelf funny stuff where one is expected to submit to the exception by being indoctrinated with a piece of silly dogma. i.e. When Peter says "taught" he really means forget the only and the right thing to do which is using our intelligence. This "taught" means the abandonment of reasoning, questioning, observing, experimenting and the analysis of evidence which is the bedrock of our morality and from which logically springs love, forgiveness, tolerance and a profound desire to make a just, egalitarian society to reduce suffering. He really means we do not need any more knowledge to understand the real world because this is the belief.

What precisely is the expressed meaning? e.g. Teddy, the unseen, omnipresent source of all being miraculously is born in a manger to look like one of us and with much hoo haa. We then know nothing of teddy for almost thirty years which seems somewhat borderline. Wouldn't you think in all these years he would in truth be telling people he was teddy rather than eavesdropping and interposing in disguised humanity? Well so much for the holy spirit stuff while this particular teddy is on a mission because we find it is better to snoop around for most of one's life before quickly doing the bigbang with much weeping, wailing, blood, guts, gore and simulated pain. Phew, this teddy certainly satisfies a sadomasochist mindset with his alpha and omega screaming spasm of psychosis.

"The only motivation which seems to separate us noticably from the animal world is 'self gratification' as a studied exercise.

So, I'll add that to the other 2, as I've long suggested all human behavior can be resolved down to any one, or a combination of these 3.

1/ Self preservation.
2/ Self propogation.
3/ Self gratification."

BOAZ_David, February 2007

It is a well known and considered proposition that understood perceptions of the world are usually a tranferance of one's own ideology and beliefs.

Nice going BOAZ, I've finally worked out the real you.

BOAZ,

Humans are animals. Mammals, in fact. Moreover, the Australian Museum exhibit in Sydney, states, we are a branch of the Great Apes. No problem to me.

Humans are not alone at being senient. Dogs can be self sacrificing and dolphins have been known to train human fisherman,as to where to caste nets.

Our neocortex is very advanced but we carry a load of baggage from earler evolution, as with the comment on the limbic system, above.

In many ways we humans are special, but we are not fully in class of our own.

Common DNA can be traced to very primitive organisms, in existing in the very deep crust of Earth. Go bad far enough and you are related to a common garden snail.

[Appreciate that as Christian that you might not believe we are mammals and the world was created 4,000 BCE. I beg to differ.]

RE: Psalm 82:

"The psalm calls the judges of Israel 'gods' and 'children of the most High.' They were called gods because they represented God in executing judgment. In John l0:34-36, Jesus used this passage to defend his claims to be God. His argument was as follows: if God would call mere men gods, why was it blasphemous for him, the Son of God, to declare himself equal with God?"

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RE: The film "The Exorcist"

The actual child possessed in this case was a boy. The film fictionalized his story to protect his identity.

January l949:

"As an only child, he had to depend upon the adults in the household for his playmates. One of these adults was his Aunt Harriet, Karl Mannheim's sister...Harriet responded to Robbie's interest in board games by introducing him to a new one -- the Ouija board.

...Because Aunt Harriet was a Spiritualist, she saw the Ouija board as a way to make contact between this world and the next....

Great forces now were beginning to focus on the Mannheim's home, a one-and-a-half-story frame house in Mount Ranier, Maryland, a suburb of Washington, D.C. Call them psychological forces, though this is a feeble designation for the overwhelming horror to come." Thomas B. Allen, "Possessed -- The True Story of an Exorcism."

The rest of the story is laid out in the film version.

There are ways for a human to consent to spirit possession -- to open the door to fallen angels:

a) commit a sin e.g. adultery, fornication, murder, lying, cheating, stealing;
b) be unrepentant about it;

c)refuse to recognize sin's true nature;

d) speak to evil spirits (e.g. through the Ouija board);

e) channel evil spirits -- e.g. automatic writing;

f) blame God for all or some of one's own problems...etc.

g) deny that God is telling you the truth about reality.

Evil spirits require consent, could be constructive rather than actual consent as in the commission of a sin.

Also see Malachi Martin, "Hostage to the Devil -- The Possession and Exorcism of Five Contemporary Americans" -- excerpt forthcoming.

When JC returns will Peter Sellick believe it to be true?