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The nonexistence of the spirit world : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 12/2/2007

In the absence of church teaching, ideas about God will always revert to simple monotheism.

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This essay gives a unique understanding of the origins and limitations of the essentially nieve and self-serving childish religion that Sells advocates.

1. www.aboutadidam.org/readings/parental_deity/index.html

This related essay gives a unique understanding of the origins & consequences of the science vs EXOTERIC religion culture wars. Sells religion being entirely within the domain of the exoteric--that is entirely dumbed down.A religion which confines everyone to meat-body existence only.
There is no esoteric content in any of his writings.None.

2. www.dabase.net/noface.htm

Also

3. www.dabase.net/tfrbkgil.htm The Garden of Indestructible Light

Did anyone ever notice that the Church of England (Sells home base) was founded by a person who was a serial killer, a mass murderer and by far the "greatest" thief and vandal in English history. Henry VIII.
Posted by Ho Hum, Monday, 12 February 2007 9:22:40 AM
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Didn't we start this particular discussion a while ago? I seem to remember pointing out the machinations in Nicaea early last year. But maybe I just dreamed it.

>>Athanasius did not win the argument against Arius with a reasoned discourse, in fact he was devious and a bully and one wonders at the establishment of such a key concept as the Trinity to theology and indeed the whole of Western civilisation from such a quagmire of personality and politics...

Perhaps Athanasius, for all his thuggery, saw how things would go if Arius had had his day, a deficient theology that could not be at the centre of the flowering of the culture of the West. So perhaps the logic was more about the outcome than of seeing the invisible things of God!<<

The proposal seems to be that the end justifies the means - have I got this right?

That we are not looking at an argument carried by superior theology, or a more accurate interpretation of three centuries of Christian history, doesn't entirely surprise me.

But if a true understanding of Christianity's nature is dependent upon an interpretation achieved principally by the forceful nature of a bully and a thug, does this not concern those who continue to base long, erudite and fundamentally incomprehensible texts on the "absolutes" so created?
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 12 February 2007 9:56:15 AM
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Sellicks article was disappointingly but to be expected Dungeons and Dragons drivel.
At first glance it is a whinge about theologians making stuff up and could other theologians making stuff up make up better stuff. Castles in the air because the foundation is absent, it never had existed, it was made up, what was it? It was god. No god, no prior proof of god = no argument, no justification by god, no honest claim of god.

The onus is on Sellick to prove his god to exists to justify what is without proof of god merely Sellicks own fantasy. Without proof of god the article has no point. The article did smack of self indulgence and it is typical of these Dungeon and Dragon cult articles. The irony is without proof of god Sellick proves his own god as nonexistent. God remains as always a missing link which requires believers to step in and think and speak for.

Spirituality is nothing other than ego. To say the ego always leads to superstition such as believing in a god is meaningless Christian propaganda unless we put Sellicks argument to analysis. The article is more about Sellicks than anything else. It is obvious to the non-superstitious that spirituality is the ego. The article demonstrates how the outside world, reality can provoke superstition to become defensive as God is not based on knowledge but is made up in accordance to individual preferences and the fraternity of con men , the theologians and clergy. The article demonstrates a conflict within Sellicks fantasy, a fight between ego fed superstitions, conman manipulated dogma against reality and rationality. Obviously this is not restricted to Sellick , he merely expressed it , it is universal across all superstitions from Christianity and Islam to Animism. As another of Sellicks Dungeons and Dragons comrades the Buddha claimed’ with our thoughts we create the world’ very apt because to play the Dungeons and Dragons game you ‘got to have faith’ or what the non-politically correct may call brainwashing.
Posted by West, Monday, 12 February 2007 11:00:04 AM
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The "spirit" of things is simply the underlying direction of movement. The chinese call it The Tao. To sense it, is to first have a clear, 'unintentional' mind. To know the direction of things and to move in concert is harmony. Man is at his most hapy when he understands his general harmony with all things - including those beyond his control, beyond himself.

The direction is always about increasing love and understanding. To resist is to create uneasiness, instabiity and even distress.

When we understand the reasons for love and for peace, it is easier to align with them accordingly, consistently and influence all things, initially from a state of calm acceptance and subsequently, inner motivation from what we know we must do.
Posted by K£vin, Monday, 12 February 2007 11:33:11 AM
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'Christians believe in order to know'. Can't argue with this as those who hold to evolution do exactly the same thing.
Posted by runner, Monday, 12 February 2007 12:06:54 PM
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I have little doubt that the author is trying to come to terms with the desertion of Rev. Peter Ferguson from the Anglican creed to the Unitarians.

I look forward to further attempts to suggest that the Trinitarian Judeo-Christian god suffers from multiple personality disorder and the cognitive dissonance this entails.
Posted by Lev, Monday, 12 February 2007 12:12:43 PM
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