There is persecution , Christians persecute homosexuals , interfere with their lives , banning same sex marriage. Christians persecute women who need to have an abortion, Christians persecute the chronically ill and many of the disabled by preventing stem cell research. Christians persecute science by constantly trying to undermine the great work that is done. Christians persecute Children by taking their happy lives from them and brainwashing them in the darkage superstition based cult of Christianity. Christians persecute truth with their superstitious claims. There is plenty of persecution going on but its Christianity which is doing all the persecution.

Bravo, Bravo, West & RhysProbert.
May the force be with you.

Hey *Poppets*

Not ALL *Christians* persecute those of the "Gay" persuasion. Australia's 1st Church have been marrying same since Perth, 1971. We still do, calling the ceremony a *Covenant of Love*

Our view is that if 2 Souls come together in *Luv* seeking the consecration of the *AllMighty* then no person has the right to interefere. (Some of us reckon that *John* was called the *Beloved* for more reasons than 1. HaHaHa)

As for "Spirit," it is our view that "Spirit" is non-corporeal whereas matter is corporeal. How 1 goes about proving the non-corporeal with corporeal means I don't quite know but then, wasn't it 1 of *Steve Hawking's* mates who said something like,

" ... The "New Physics" prevailing, perhaps the mystery of that which lies on the other side of the Black Holes will become known to us. ..."

All Abrahamic derived religions close their eyes to the many "Spirits" that make up the nature of this world. Their intellectualized propagation of monotheism and their God demands no less. It has long since become a war of who's God is THE God. The Spirits that define the natural world have been disowned and disavowed. Rejected, while being misunderstood in the context of their single God. The great fear that accepting many Spirits may lead to many Gods when only one is being championed.

Not all fascists persecuted Jews either AJLeBreton but you have to agree with the values of a cult before you allow yourself to join it.

Christianity has always been and remains the great persecuter of history along with its cousin Cult Islam. Most of the Christians fed to the lions were fed by competing Christian sects. After the Roman armies of Christ wiped out the pagan Goths the Christians turned on themselves.The belief in god always without fail leads to the persecution or attempted persecution of somebody. The belief in God brings out the worst in people. Wether one sect accepts homosexuals is beside the point , the machine of persecution is there and is active. Jesus himself within his rantings according to the occult fiction of the new testament locks out non Jews from heaven = Christ the persecuter. Women have been persecuted all through history by Christianity which came so ingrained and changed so recently we still have an anti family economic system.

That me may find the other end of the black hole , dont hold your breath Christians , there still wont be flying pigs on the other side.

@Rhys

You raise the very interesting problem when you ask "You state that if Arius had his way, natural science would have been crippled. Isn’t that pure speculation?"

Of course, the opposite to what the author claims is really the case. When an "Arian-like" metaphysical perspective dominated, that is, "simple monotheism plus naturalism" science developed in great leaps and bounds. I speak of course of the Abbasid caliphate of Babylon who, regrettably, were defeated by mystical theologians who brought a sudden stop to Islamic scientific development.