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The nonexistence of the spirit world : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 12/2/2007

In the absence of church teaching, ideas about God will always revert to simple monotheism.

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Its all politics. Faith Vs risk assessment, dogma Vs outcomes, loyalty Vs values. Salvation Vs ultralism, ritual Vs science, tradition Vs information. Heirachy Vs equality, majority Vs minority, pride Vs reality, spirit Vs life , moral ideals Vs morality.
Posted by West, Thursday, 24 May 2007 1:49:35 PM
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As 4 the State of the Vessel & U235 EnRichment Waste Munitions:

Confirmation that Ionizing Radiation Can Induce Genomic Instability:
John W. Gofman, M.D., Ph.D., and
Egan O'Connor, Executive Director, CNR. Spring 1998.
.. " When a mutagen has induced genomic instability in a cell, some of the cell's descendants will experience new and unrepaired genetic abnormalities at an excessive rate, even though the descendants themselves received no exposure to the mutagen used in the experiment. This occurs because such cells have inherited a genome which was injured with respect to maintaining genomic stability. "

...

Uranium 238: Depleted Uranium
Broadcast on ABC RN on Saturday 15/6/2002
Dr Helen Caldicott:
" .. The men who fought in the Gulf War, they are excreting uranium in their semen; they call it 'burning semen' and their wives notice it too. Now what’s in the semen? The genes for all future generations. ... "

...

Oh Dear *Poppets*
HaHaHa
What if there's a mix-up & baby *Jesus* comes bak as a
Mutant "Cyclops Baby" with SuperPowers?

...Adam...
Posted by AJLeBreton, Friday, 25 May 2007 1:42:05 PM
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Yes and additionally there is the issue of radon from depleted uranium dust collecting in veterans grave yards.Farmers of the future beware.

Jesus coming back? The concept rubs against an omnipresent god. With an omnipresent god , whats the use of coming back? with the internet and television and radio , how efficient is coming back? The only reason why a messiah would come back to collect his chosen would be to rub the noses of the non believers in his return for not believing in something that only existed in myth that there was never a hair of evidence to support. So if he came back he proves himself immoral and is likely to have his nose rubbed in his own hypocracy.

You would think by 1800 years Jesus would of realised that coming back is a stupid thing to do with little purpose as it is kind of like a dramatic teenage tantrum.

Whatever , he aint ever coming back.
Posted by West, Friday, 25 May 2007 2:29:18 PM
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"But Christian revelation includes the revelation that the world is not the habitat of mind, this is why natural science arose in the Christian West despite the glitch of Galileo’s trial." - Peter Sellick.

Sells,

The theistic issue arising from Galileo was between the natural domain [Earth] and supernatural domain [The Heavens/Space]. That is why the Vatican atstronomers woudl not look through his telescope. Moreover, the broader recognition of the natural world, not under the Celestial Spheres, was not recognised by the Christian Church, arresting the development of civilization, since before the Dark Ages [which the Christians, in part, also occasioned]. The hand of that Church in opposition to popular, or, even specialist knowledge, prevented Galileo publishing his later works during his lifetime. Closer to contemporary examples would be Mendel [genetics] and Evolution [Darwin and last century the Monkey Trials].

Mind and body are Greek concepts. Applying The Mind via Episte to determine Techne is a creation of The Great Divigence [c.1760], and, is a stand at the opposite pole the Creations of Nicaea
Posted by Oliver, Monday, 28 May 2007 11:13:37 AM
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Science was a big issue for Ptolemy who as a benefactor of science kicked off what was to be later though of as European science. The Greeks articulted what science is and is not. According to Thucydides the Greeks in the Peloponesian war did to the sea vessel what WW1 and WW2 did to aircraft in the 20th century. Augustus Caesar collected fossils and the Romans worked out grand animals had once existed before the time of man. The Vikings like the Egyptians, Indians and Greeks worked out the world was round. Hindu scientists were pondering how stars were born and died long before Jesus and his flat Earth followers existed. If you were a sick Christian you would be treated by a pagan Alchemist , Muslim or Jewish doctor. Quite A few have had their cures or surgical techniques confirmed. The Romans experimented with surgery although successful techniques were banned under Christian rule. Chinese acupunture , older than Christ has been proved by German researchers to actually work only a few years ago. Under Christianity Europe technologically, economically, politically and scientifically went into decline. It wasnt until the rise of what was considered 'sinful cities' that the diversity of ideas that create free thinking enabled Europe to steer toward enlightenment. Even today Northern Europe is one of the most technologically advanced places on Earth and Christianity is in decline there. The U.S is also technologically advanced on par with Europe but in the Bible Belt and areas of strong Christianity the U.S resembles a developing country. Japan is a different kettle of fish.

Needless to say knowledge and science has flourished despite Christianity. It really is time to draw the real line between reality and mythology. If god really existed it is not logical that science has to be defunct because the god believer agenda is then arguing truth is blasphemy. If god really does not exist it is not logical to punish science because it cant prove fantasy and fiction are reality.
Posted by West, Monday, 28 May 2007 12:40:45 PM
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WEST:
" ... Needless to say knowledge and science has flourished despite "Christianity" ...

REVENGE of the SITH:
Chancellor Palpatine
" ... All who gain power are afraid 2 lose it, ... "
Posted by AJLeBreton, Monday, 28 May 2007 5:44:47 PM
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